spdcrazy Posted June 1, 2016 Report Share Posted June 1, 2016 anyone ever put a 4x6 or something in the ashtray area? seems to be plenty of room below it. Just removed the padding and think it would be a sweet place for it. 1 Quote Link to comment
tr8er Posted June 1, 2016 Report Share Posted June 1, 2016 Vehicle? Rear door ashtrays? Front console ash tray? 1 Quote Link to comment
spdcrazy Posted June 1, 2016 Author Report Share Posted June 1, 2016 71 521. ash tray in the center of the dash. up top 1 Quote Link to comment
DanielC Posted June 1, 2016 Report Share Posted June 1, 2016 Bottom of the speaker magnet would be pretty close to the radio top. 1 Quote Link to comment
flatcat19 Posted June 1, 2016 Report Share Posted June 1, 2016 I think the ashtray is way more useful than a speaker placed there. I'm actually looking for a Bluetooth speaker that closely fits the opening of the stock stereo. 1 Quote Link to comment
Rjawm Posted June 2, 2016 Report Share Posted June 2, 2016 I'm actually looking for a Bluetooth speaker that closely fits the opening of the stock stereo. There is another Bluetooth option, a receiver hidden in the dash, or under your seat, or wherever, that feeds to an amp and then still to real speakers. https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00S92C4YG/ref=wl_it_dp_o_pC_nS_ttl?_encoding=UTF8&colid=IHNF24WNSTFV&coliid=ISD3631I5A0YM And I know the Amazon item title says "RCA Input" but it is output to an amp. Unless your goal was to eliminate having to cut out speaker holes in a pristine interior or maybe just really wanting shitty tinny sound of course. Wanted to add, single speakers work great for listening to AM radio in monotone broadcast. You lose a lot when using it for listening to true stereo, like half the recorded tracks. Unless your goal is just background noise to break the monotony of daily driving or you like to listen talk radio. I suppose, bottomline, it's still better than nothing lol. 1 Quote Link to comment
flatcat19 Posted June 2, 2016 Report Share Posted June 2, 2016 I'm far from pristine...just don't want to go that far yet. I have already seen that thing, and others like it. 1 Quote Link to comment
95silvia Posted June 3, 2016 Report Share Posted June 3, 2016 I found a Bluetooth speaker that I could pop in and pop out and just play off my phone and at night there is no reason to break my windows 1 Quote Link to comment
mrbigtanker Posted June 3, 2016 Report Share Posted June 3, 2016 Dude scrap this idea unless your running 1 hockey ass speaker in a beat up truck for just sound then don't put a speaker where is todays modern cars and trucks would be a center channel. Go door panels or kick panels or behind the seat. And what Daniel C said is spot on shallow speaker maybe but dumb dumb dumb idea. 2 Quote Link to comment
bilzbobaggins Posted June 3, 2016 Report Share Posted June 3, 2016 But in all fairness, it is a horrible place for an ashtray. I get more hot ash in my eye using it. Now I flick ash out the window and knock the cherry out the window and toss the butt in there 1 Quote Link to comment
Charlie69 Posted June 4, 2016 Report Share Posted June 4, 2016 Quit smoking problem solved! LOL 3 Quote Link to comment
flatcat19 Posted June 4, 2016 Report Share Posted June 4, 2016 Vape life, bruh. 1 Quote Link to comment
spdcrazy Posted June 5, 2016 Author Report Share Posted June 5, 2016 it would be a center speaker while I put one in each kick panel. I don't remember the measurement but I think it was 2.5-2.75in from metal of dash to the bottom of the radio, this should be enough for a standard speaker correct? or would even the proximity to the radio not be a wise idea? again i'm just tossing around the idea, I don't need an ashtray, and would like to utilize the space. I don't mind the Bluetooth option, but I hate fumbling with batteries and such. rather have something wired into the truck. I want to wire the factory radio to an aux jack for my phone/ipod/etc. 1 Quote Link to comment
spdcrazy Posted June 5, 2016 Author Report Share Posted June 5, 2016 am I grasping correctly that some of you are saying it wont sound good due to the ding of the metal dash as well? 1 Quote Link to comment
tr8er Posted June 5, 2016 Report Share Posted June 5, 2016 Okay. I thought this was for a hokey AM radio or something. You are looking for good sound with sides and a center channel? Bad idea. The center channel, when you actually have a head unit that can mix for 5.1, gives a bunch of center bias for all mixes. Meaning, if your center channel isn't your best sounding speaker, it'll degrade the sound. And a dinky 2.5" speaker in a dash won't likely be your best. It might help the sound stage, but at the cost of not sounding good. I'd avoid this. Besides, almost all music is recorded in stereo, intended to be heard in stereo, and any down mix won't be better. My advise would be to put a EQ in there to improve control of your sound. 3 Quote Link to comment
spdcrazy Posted June 5, 2016 Author Report Share Posted June 5, 2016 i see where you are going with your thinking, I don't think I want to go as far as an equalizer and such, trying to keep it simple here. the only thing i'd say would be different would be the speaker size, I "should" be able to fit a 4x6, would that help? or still be unbalance? I suppose I could use it for a 4x6 and then just run some small tweeters down in the kick panels or something? again i'm trying to keep it simple, but would like to better use the ashtray spot. also, I plan to have an aux cable for use on my phone, so while it will be stereo, it won't be anything crazy 1 Quote Link to comment
mrbigtanker Posted June 5, 2016 Report Share Posted June 5, 2016 i see where you are going with your thinking, I don't think I want to go as far as an equalizer and such, trying to keep it simple here. the only thing i'd say would be different would be the speaker size, I "should" be able to fit a 4x6, would that help? or still be unbalance? I suppose I could use it for a 4x6 and then just run some small tweeters down in the kick panels or something? again i'm trying to keep it simple, but would like to better use the ashtray spot. also, I plan to have an aux cable for use on my phone, so while it will be stereo, it won't be anything crazy Is that not what I said? I like the creativity but just wont do you any good. I want better sounds in my truck also but unless I make custom kick panels which I don't want holes are coming soon to the door panels because well its the most logical in these little trucks. 1 Quote Link to comment
thisismatt Posted June 5, 2016 Report Share Posted June 5, 2016 Use it as-is to hold your phone. Done. 2 Quote Link to comment
Royal Sierra Posted June 5, 2016 Report Share Posted June 5, 2016 After going through the bs of trying to get decent sound out of the alpine in my last 521, i went woth a delete plate this time around. 2 Quote Link to comment
mrbigtanker Posted June 5, 2016 Report Share Posted June 5, 2016 I cut my dash in my truck. Alpine head unit but only 2 speakers. It has sound but thats it. 2 Quote Link to comment
tr8er Posted June 5, 2016 Report Share Posted June 5, 2016 EQ's aren't that crazy. Put mine in to control my sub volume mostly. Pretty much disappears with the head unit. 2 Quote Link to comment
tr8er Posted June 5, 2016 Report Share Posted June 5, 2016 http://www.termpro.com/asp/pubs.asp?ID=115 1 Quote Link to comment
mrbigtanker Posted June 6, 2016 Report Share Posted June 6, 2016 EQ's aren't that crazy. Put mine in to control my sub volume mostly. Pretty much disappears with the head unit. Cuz Hawaiians all run EQ. And that ain't no alpine. Lol 1 Quote Link to comment
spdcrazy Posted June 6, 2016 Author Report Share Posted June 6, 2016 wow, that link is full of good info! I don't see why I can't just wire it in with the two speakers like it explains, and I read that a co-axial center speaker is optimal. if I go that route for the center, what style would I be looking for in the kickpanel speakers? 2 or 3 ways? Mr.Big, yes that was what you were saying, however I still don't see why the location itself could be a dumb idea, what that solely due to the speaker being physically close to the radio? or with the possibility of the metal dash vibrating and being annoying? or just a dumb idea if it was the only speaker I intended on installing? 2 Quote Link to comment
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