Burabuda Posted September 30, 2015 Author Report Share Posted September 30, 2015 @bob would also love to see that swap into a rx2/3/4 :devil: 1 Quote Link to comment
ericsb210 Posted September 30, 2015 Report Share Posted September 30, 2015 Cool Cat dipstick Quote Link to comment
datzenmike Posted September 30, 2015 Report Share Posted September 30, 2015 With a rad like that.... it has to be an A series.... Quote Link to comment
Burabuda Posted October 1, 2015 Author Report Share Posted October 1, 2015 watch the vid if you have time 3 Quote Link to comment
datzenmike Posted October 4, 2015 Report Share Posted October 4, 2015 People still think those strut braces do anything??? Quote Link to comment
paradime Posted October 4, 2015 Report Share Posted October 4, 2015 Sure, they keep the struts from... from ah... strutting, yah that's it. Quote Link to comment
datzenmike Posted October 4, 2015 Report Share Posted October 4, 2015 I'm guessing that if the strut towers moved the hood would get pinched or you'd see the gap get wider while cornering. Strut braces.... so subtle you would never know if it was working or not! Meanwhile back in the real world where placebos work as well as medicine.... Quote Link to comment
datsunfreak Posted October 4, 2015 Report Share Posted October 4, 2015 I'm guessing that if the strut towers moved the hood would get pinched or you'd see the gap get wider while cornering. But how often do you stare at the hood gaps while taking a turn at the limit? ^_^ Quote Link to comment
Burabuda Posted October 4, 2015 Author Report Share Posted October 4, 2015 what are you saying? mike often pushes his whip to the limit on the island twisties even with a caribo carcus tied to the bonnet! Quote Link to comment
datrod Posted October 4, 2015 Report Share Posted October 4, 2015 Mike. Have you ever had a non stock Datsun that you used for auto X or open track day's ??? I can tell ya they do work. I had one on the front and rear of my auto x car. And a full roll cage makes a difference as well. Your just not going to know it on a street car. When my whip is whippin I can tell the difference. Quote Link to comment
datzenmike Posted October 4, 2015 Report Share Posted October 4, 2015 Exactly. It's a subtle advantage expressed only under race course conditions. For everyone else.... it tastes just like butter. 2 Quote Link to comment
goes2fast Posted October 5, 2015 Report Share Posted October 5, 2015 You would be supprised how much the shock towers move on some cars. It made a big difference on the Eclipse I used to have. If you pulled the bolt out of one side, and jacked it up to work on it it would missalign by at least one half inch. That can change your alignment by a lot when going over bumps. Quote Link to comment
paradime Posted October 5, 2015 Report Share Posted October 5, 2015 To be honest. I bought a strut brace for my SR 510 thinking hell, with that much power I'd better get all the support I can. I asked around, did some research, and this is what I found. BRE #47 by the end of the season NO BRACE, Bob Sharp same NO BRACE, Troy Ermish who holds the lap record at Laguna, Sears Point, and Willow Springs, yah, NO BRACE. BRE #47 One of Troys cars If you think of it, all the lateral cornering load is transferred through the bottom of the strut into the control arm which is held by the front cross member. The strut towers see only vertical force transferred up through the suspension. If the car has a roll cage there is no point, because the body will not flex if the cage is built right. When it comes to torsional force exerted by the motor, there again, those loads are transferred to the cross member which is mounted to the stoutest part of the unibody. Just forward of the shear support of the firewall, and directly under the V shape support of the strut towers, the cross member is held solid. For the sake of argument, lets say there was some flex in the strut towers in cornering, or torsional rotation of the motor. If the top of the brace is held only by a pivoting point at the top of the tower, it offers no torsional strength if the body is twisting. I have a body bonded 6 point cage that is welded to the rear towers, and a strut brace in the back. The back sees much greater torsional loading under acceleration out of corners than the front. Quote Link to comment
goes2fast Posted October 5, 2015 Report Share Posted October 5, 2015 What can I tell you, I had less understeer on my Eclipse after I installed one. Quote Link to comment
Burabuda Posted October 5, 2015 Author Report Share Posted October 5, 2015 yea good point para cars that got roll cages don't need no stinkin' strut bars mike has a cage in his 710 goon i believe? 1 Quote Link to comment
paradime Posted October 5, 2015 Report Share Posted October 5, 2015 What can I tell you, I had less understeer on my Eclipse after I installed one. Maybe an Eclipse is to 510 as an apple is to an orange? Did you have a roll cage in the Eclipse? Quote Link to comment
mattyhacks71 Posted October 5, 2015 Report Share Posted October 5, 2015 watch the vid if you have time This motor is part the reason I'm into 510s. SO GOOD 1 Quote Link to comment
goes2fast Posted October 5, 2015 Report Share Posted October 5, 2015 Maybe an Eclipse is to 510 as an apple is to an orange? Did you have a roll cage in the Eclipse? No, it was my daily driver. 1 Quote Link to comment
datzenmike Posted October 5, 2015 Report Share Posted October 5, 2015 yea good point para cars that got roll cages don't need no stinkin' strut bars mike has a cage in his 710 goon i believe? Well it's a 4 door and a goon so loads more structural strength than a 2 door sedan would have. Quote Link to comment
Mattndew76 Posted October 5, 2015 Report Share Posted October 5, 2015 On the 510 the strut towers are far enough away from the fire wall. So take advantage of a brace. My 1200 flexes like a wet waffle. I'm going to add one. Most modern cars are designed to where the towers are so close to the firewall that even on a track car you don't see them run over the motor. Quote Link to comment
datzenmike Posted October 5, 2015 Report Share Posted October 5, 2015 Remember the Ford 427 SOHC engine from the 60s? Well Ford learned how to make them over 20 years before that. Aluminum block and heads, twin carbs, 1,100 cu. in. or 18 liters! 2 Quote Link to comment
q-tip Posted October 5, 2015 Report Share Posted October 5, 2015 427 side oiler, crazy engine for a crazy car, the GT40 Quote Link to comment
Burabuda Posted October 5, 2015 Author Report Share Posted October 5, 2015 that tank engine vid led me to this awesome to see they made it fun on the twisties. don't see that much Quote Link to comment
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