RedBanner Posted January 16, 2012 Report Share Posted January 16, 2012 So I need some traction to get to work for a few day, so I got about 150 lbs of #2 steel shot over the wheels. Is there a point where its too much, what do you guys do for weight, how much? Quote Link to comment
Eagle_Adam Posted January 17, 2012 Report Share Posted January 17, 2012 no more than 50 lbs per side IMO - when i break out the 4WD ranger thats all i add - if you add more your just asking for the back end to come swinging around Quote Link to comment
Skib Posted January 17, 2012 Report Share Posted January 17, 2012 In the old 240z I just strapped an automatic 280zxt trans down in the back with the cargo straps lulz most useful thing it has ever done :rofl: Quote Link to comment
Pumpkn210 Posted January 17, 2012 Report Share Posted January 17, 2012 Using skill is better (IMO) for snowy weather. I used to get studded snows on stealies, but skill seems to work just as good :P Quote Link to comment
RedBanner Posted January 17, 2012 Author Report Share Posted January 17, 2012 Cool I can do that, I should have said that my car sits around 2000# and im running 185 all seasons... Well .... they where all seasons :lol: Quote Link to comment
RedBanner Posted January 17, 2012 Author Report Share Posted January 17, 2012 Called every shop around here, skill is on back order :( Quote Link to comment
Skib Posted January 17, 2012 Report Share Posted January 17, 2012 Called every shop around here, skill is on back order :( I got it all 1 Quote Link to comment
ggzilla Posted January 17, 2012 Report Share Posted January 17, 2012 skill, not steel I don't use no sandbags, and have only spun out a few times ... Quote Link to comment
DatDoug Posted January 17, 2012 Report Share Posted January 17, 2012 Its all about the tires. Ive got some good studded snow tires in the back(skinnier the better) & mud & snows up front. For general cruising around town & backroads with only a few inches no weight is necessary. If your going to hit some hills & deeper snow then a lil weight could be good. Quote Link to comment
datsunaholic Posted January 17, 2012 Report Share Posted January 17, 2012 Weight? My regular tires in the bed, snows on the back. Since neither 4X4 is running right now. Quote Link to comment
datzenmike Posted January 17, 2012 Report Share Posted January 17, 2012 DatDave an Pumpkin are right on. Skill and proper tires. All season are useless for snow. Get a pair of snow tires with lots of sipes (pronounced s-eye-ps) on the tread and put them on spare rims so you can remove and switch them quickly.. If you don't know what sipes are find out. Tires have come a long way in the last 20 years. Snow tires are a much softer compound that stays flexible in the cold but wears more on dry pavement. These things are the greatest thing since sliced bread. If you can afford them get all four. Oh yeah the reason to have spare rims is some tire places won't mount just two tires and insist that all four must be installed because one axle will have far superior traction and the car will be imbalanced. If you take the rims in they aren't responsible for what you do with them. Weight? Never use it. That's an extra 100+ pounds of dead weight that you have pushing you from behind when trying to stop in a hurry. A lighter car stops in a shorter distance. It's also an extra 100 pounds of inertia when cornering on a slippery surface. A lighter car corners better than a heavy one. Does weight increase traction? It sure does, in a straight line accelerating... the rest of the time it's a liability. Quote Link to comment
RedBanner Posted January 17, 2012 Author Report Share Posted January 17, 2012 I have some skill, have no tires, my deal is I had trouble getting up greeley to intersate last year. I was hoping that adding alittle weight in the rear would help, did in my ranger...... Then again my ranger was horrible in the snow. Open diffs dont help Quote Link to comment
Uber Deaf One Posted January 17, 2012 Report Share Posted January 17, 2012 Adding weight in the rear will help... like Mike said, in a straight line. In every other situation it will make things worse. lol. Throw some weight back there if you can't afford tires. btw what's snow? I don't think it's dropped below 50 degrees during the day here in California so far this winter.... Quote Link to comment
RedBanner Posted January 17, 2012 Author Report Share Posted January 17, 2012 ... No tires for me, cant even afford the ratsun price till friday, and to be honest if I got em then... I wouldnt need em till they where trash anyways, it gets slick maybe 3 days a year here. Usaly theres a subaru beater to cruise around instead... But I cant afford to insure it till friday, hence the weight, maybe ill roll em in glass shards all vandamn style...?... Quote Link to comment
MikeRL411 Posted January 17, 2012 Report Share Posted January 17, 2012 When I was living in Montana I used 700x13 studded snow tires on the rear of my RL411. I gave them away 2 years ago, sorry! No ground blizzards in Rancho Palos Verdes [thank God]. Quote Link to comment
Jimmyray73 Posted January 17, 2012 Report Share Posted January 17, 2012 I always tried to keep it sorta proportional. In a small car I wouldn't go any heavier than you already have. I never added extra weights in my ZX but I used to drive delivery vans in a northeast Ohio town that was infamous for not plowing in the winter. I found that a bit of weight over the rear axle helped provided: a) it wasn't so heavy it made the rear end impossible to catch once you (inevitably) got past the limit, and B) it was stable. You REALLY don't want that weight to shift while you're trying to correct a slide. 210 lbs of sandbags in a secure tub seemed about ideal for a late 90's Aerostar... I also never used steel shot, I preferred sand or kitty litter because I could rip the bag open and dump it around the drive wheels to aid traction in a pinch. Skill is still the most important ingredient in the mix, but proper prep work never hurts. Quote Link to comment
littlejason Posted January 17, 2012 Report Share Posted January 17, 2012 Skill. And my version of skill is saying, "Hey man, do you mind if I leave my ugly Datsun in front of your house for a sec?" Quote Link to comment
Hardwyre Posted January 17, 2012 Report Share Posted January 17, 2012 Skill is less effective when 25* decline. :P Quote Link to comment
RedBanner Posted January 17, 2012 Author Report Share Posted January 17, 2012 Actuly, a local member has me set up I think :) I love ratsun. I did some "practice" in the frozen lot that used to be avx/keocyra, the weight helped more with 40# in each rear passenger foot well. But tomaro, if I survive the other people, im stopping to pick some snowies and then it will warm up. Quote Link to comment
ggzilla Posted January 17, 2012 Report Share Posted January 17, 2012 the weight helped more with 40# in each rear passenger foot well we put the weight over the driving wheels. But if you driving FWD that's hard to do. Quote Link to comment
izzo Posted January 17, 2012 Report Share Posted January 17, 2012 That kyrocera across from 57th? Quote Link to comment
freekwonder Posted January 17, 2012 Report Share Posted January 17, 2012 Depends, I got around in Kansas City snow for two years in my old Mazdaspeed 6 with summer only tires and no extra weight just fine. :-) Guess I just need to get use to my truck, first snow/ice with it seemed like the brakes locked up a lot easier than with my MS6 or my Cube. I've got Brgoodrich A/T tires. Should have gone out to an empty parking lot and played around to see how the truck handled in snow/ice. Quote Link to comment
RedBanner Posted January 17, 2012 Author Report Share Posted January 17, 2012 That kyrocera across from 57th? yep, my dad worked there for 15+ years, I guess they have a 15-20 person work force back in that building, dont know which part tho I assume the kelm. Quote Link to comment
DISLEXICDIME Posted January 18, 2012 Report Share Posted January 18, 2012 when it snows i just press this button Quote Link to comment
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