Z-train Posted January 24, 2010 Report Share Posted January 24, 2010 Pulled a L-20b apart yesterday and found this.If any of ya'll have blue permatex in your garage-throw it out. And the same guy did this. :blink: Quote Link to comment
Skib Posted January 24, 2010 Report Share Posted January 24, 2010 :huh: Jesus hates that guy <_< almost as much as I do Quote Link to comment
Jesse C. Posted January 24, 2010 Report Share Posted January 24, 2010 Ah, instant Ghetto Gaskets! I know a few guys who's engines are literally held together with that shit! And they wondered why my shit never blew up and just kept running! Quote Link to comment
datzenmike Posted January 24, 2010 Report Share Posted January 24, 2010 That shit is the worst crap. Used only by the truly ignorant. I see that shit slathered on 305 timing covers and valve covers all the time. Funny how the manufacturer doesn't use it. Course they might if they put it together with a broken stud like that... Quote Link to comment
Skib Posted January 24, 2010 Report Share Posted January 24, 2010 That shit is the worst crap. Used only by the truly ignorant. I see that shit slathered on 305 timing covers and valve covers all the time. Funny how the manufacturer doesn't use it. Course they might if they put it together with a broken stud like that... motors built by this guy...... (or equivalent) if your not Canadian or just dont get it, google video search "trailer park boys" Quote Link to comment
datzenmike Posted January 24, 2010 Report Share Posted January 24, 2010 He's just the driver. You mean the mechanic... Quote Link to comment
ppeters914 Posted January 24, 2010 Report Share Posted January 24, 2010 I use it all the time, but only a teensy weensy bit. If it squeezes out and you can see it, your using too much. Quote Link to comment
Skib Posted January 24, 2010 Report Share Posted January 24, 2010 He's just the driver. You mean the mechanic... :rofl: hes got the most common sense out of all of em Quote Link to comment
datzenmike Posted January 24, 2010 Report Share Posted January 24, 2010 He does! Plus an animal lover gets him extra points. Quote Link to comment
Skib Posted January 24, 2010 Report Share Posted January 24, 2010 He does! Plus an animal lover gets him extra points. lol Ricky deff built that motor.... Quote Link to comment
ggzilla Posted January 24, 2010 Report Share Posted January 24, 2010 GM is the most famous user of RTV silicone sealer. But usually the orange (no-foul) or the black (hi-temp) stuff. It is less expensive then regular gaskets. Like Pete says if you use the right size (small) bead of RTV Blue, there is no problem. But the regular gaskets work just as well so why bother to put both on??? Quote Link to comment
datzenmike Posted January 24, 2010 Report Share Posted January 24, 2010 Yes they are. Today's newer parts are built to closer tolerances and a sheet of paper would make a good h/g (j/k) But yeah I hear you on that. One part number for a tube for thousands of gaskets. Quote Link to comment
Skib Posted January 24, 2010 Report Share Posted January 24, 2010 Yes they are. Today's newer parts are built to closer tolerances and a sheet of paper would make a good h/g (j/k) But yeah I hear you on that. One part number for a tube for thousands of gaskets. Putting together an L6 I use half a "pea" size of blue RTV. The only place it should be on there is a very thin layer around the water passage on the front cover gasket. Quote Link to comment
yello620 Posted January 25, 2010 Report Share Posted January 25, 2010 Putting together an L6 I use half a "pea" size of blue RTV. The only place it should be on there is a very thin layer around the water passage on the front cover gasket. And another pea sized spot at the four corners of the timing cover. :D Quote Link to comment
Braden Posted January 25, 2010 Report Share Posted January 25, 2010 i work at a parts store and alot of people buy a water pump and a tube of rtv, i always tell them, sir, the water pump comes with the gasket, and then they actually use their head and dont buy the rtv, my managers get mad because i lose the sale but damn some people are just ignorant Quote Link to comment
hang_510 Posted January 25, 2010 Report Share Posted January 25, 2010 And the same guy did this. :blink: :o not the 12mm! :angry: they coulda just used the 11mm :rolleyes: IDIOT!!! maybe those cheap chinese sockets ARE good for something after all??? Quote Link to comment
Lynx Posted January 26, 2010 Report Share Posted January 26, 2010 I lost my good 12mm, maybe I did some something stupid like that and can't remember. The 25 cent benchtop one I've been using sits crooked on a wrench. Quote Link to comment
Z-train Posted January 26, 2010 Author Report Share Posted January 26, 2010 O.K.-i can't let this pass......Blue RTV is intended for use WITHOUT a gasket.For use with a gasket,Ultr-copper or Ultra grey is the ticket.And a light(skim: coat at that.The blue stuff never shoulda been made. Quote Link to comment
HRH Posted January 26, 2010 Report Share Posted January 26, 2010 There are only 4 things I ever use RTV on. Oil pan, timing cover, water pump, thermostat housing. On the pans, I use Right Stuff, works absolutely great, but a bitch to get off. That's generally the only place I use it, except for that stupid Z20S valve cover gasket that kept leaking. I Right Stuffed that, never leaked again. Generally I just rub a thin film of ultra copper on both sides of the gasket (just enough to take up any holes or scratches and make it tacky) and make sure to run a finger along the edges to make a ridge in the center so it doesn't spooge out and make massive excess that could get inside the motor. And never, never, NEVER attempt to seal an intake/exhaust gasket with RTV! I can't believe the previous owner did that on your 20b. That's like putting a bead around the carb gasket, you just don't do it! Quote Link to comment
RoadRace Posted February 2, 2010 Report Share Posted February 2, 2010 i knew a guy who swore by using 3M weatherstripping adhesive for his gaskets - the yellow stinky stuff. i ran into a couple other guys who did the same. The reasoning was the adverse effects that gasoline has on RTV - if you've ever used rtv to seal the base gasket on a carb, you know what can happen, so no matter how miniscule the possibibility of getting gas on the stuff, he would never use it. i never had a problem with the way i did things so i never tried it. personally i use Permatex Moto-Seal when applicable. http://www.permatex.com/documents/tds/Automotive/29132.pdf Quote Link to comment
mr68gts Posted February 3, 2010 Report Share Posted February 3, 2010 I've never had to run rtv around a carb gasket. Only place I use it is the water pumps, timing covers and oil pans. Intakes only get it around the water ports and in the corners (v8) or corners of timing covers on 4 bangers. Is that why my Dart wont die Jesse? lol Paul Quote Link to comment
79D50 Posted February 12, 2010 Report Share Posted February 12, 2010 There are only 4 things I ever use RTV on. Oil pan, timing cover, water pump, thermostat housing. On the pans, I use Right Stuff, works absolutely great, but a bitch to get off. That's generally the only place I use it, except for that stupid Z20S valve cover gasket that kept leaking. I Right Stuffed that, never leaked again. Generally I just rub a thin film of ultra copper on both sides of the gasket (just enough to take up any holes or scratches and make it tacky) and make sure to run a finger along the edges to make a ridge in the center so it doesn't spooge out and make massive excess that could get inside the motor. And never, never, NEVER attempt to seal an intake/exhaust gasket with RTV! I can't believe the previous owner did that on your 20b. That's like putting a bead around the carb gasket, you just don't do it! ^^^^^X2 ....I use the Hi-Temp Black Silicone. I find it covers better and has a stronger bonding agent. I skim it and only apply a super thin coat. Never any splooge. I also use a thin bead on the CAM cover on the corners. Every other gasket is dry. I helped a buddy fix his carb once. When I had it apart I noticed he used RTV on the gaskets. Hahahaha. Duh..The gas melted the RTV and plugged up the carb. He has learned since. Quote Link to comment
Jesse C. Posted February 14, 2010 Report Share Posted February 14, 2010 I've never had to run rtv around a carb gasket. Only place I use it is the water pumps, timing covers and oil pans. Intakes only get it around the water ports and in the corners (v8) or corners of timing covers on 4 bangers. Is that why my Dart wont die Jesse? lol Paul Don't give away all the secrets! :rolleyes: Quote Link to comment
Guest kamakazi620 Posted February 16, 2010 Report Share Posted February 16, 2010 ^^^Nice,I use permatex form a gasket no 2,and I also use it sparingly on the gaskets.RTV is F'n GARBAGE!!!!! Quote Link to comment
SHADY280 Posted February 17, 2010 Report Share Posted February 17, 2010 i use that right stuff too, only when absolutly needed. vblieve it or not toyota tercel, 1990 used rtv from the factory for the whole oil pan. i rebuilt one for a guy and couldnt find one, i thought the parts idiot was lying, but a call to the dealership found otherwise. Quote Link to comment
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