HRH Posted January 21, 2012 Report Share Posted January 21, 2012 Alright, the forum has been filled with crap lately. Too much drama. I know we're all in the winter doldrums, so since I'm out in the garage today, I figured I would help by putting up an informative and useful thread. I needed to cut apart some filters for my display at my work (NAPA), I thought I would give FRAM a fair chance and even cut apart their "6x" filter, just to see if they have changed anything. BTW, NAPA Gold filters are made by Wix, technically ours have a smidgeon more paper in them, but for the most part are exactly the same.I'm renewing my opinion that you could gut a filter, throw in a sock and do about the same job as a FRAM filter. And now I'll have something to show those people who insist on using FRAM when they come into NAPA looking for one. Without further ado, here are the pictures: 1 Quote Link to comment
philcas1987 Posted January 21, 2012 Report Share Posted January 21, 2012 i think you should write wix on the wix filter. Quote Link to comment
Laecaon Posted January 21, 2012 Report Share Posted January 21, 2012 Any chance for a dissection of the Pro select? Quote Link to comment
I'm BLUE Posted January 21, 2012 Report Share Posted January 21, 2012 Wheres the cut away of the NAPA economy "white" filter? :D Quote Link to comment
KC Phirus Posted January 21, 2012 Report Share Posted January 21, 2012 I heard the old datsun canisters were a canister that you pulled off and stuck a roll of toilet paper in :P Quote Link to comment
HRH Posted January 21, 2012 Author Report Share Posted January 21, 2012 You know, I'm curious to do the ProSelect filters (which are only for shops now) the general public gets the Silver filter. But I haven't cut either apart. I'll try and remember to get some tomorrow and do that. I only use the Gold, and technically, the 6x should be equivalent, but obviously isn't. Those ProSelect filters I don't think are made by Wix anymore. They're a subsidiary of Affinia group, but not sure where or how they're actually constructed, just know it isn't the same Wix filter as the Gold. Quote Link to comment
Laecaon Posted January 21, 2012 Report Share Posted January 21, 2012 Um what? My napa sells the proselects like crazy! They dont even have Silvers for the Datsuns (asked a few times). I have an old one in my garage right now. Quote Link to comment
I'm BLUE Posted January 21, 2012 Report Share Posted January 21, 2012 Hell ... that's good to know ... will just be buying NAPA Gold then .... :D :lol: Quote Link to comment
DAT510 Posted January 21, 2012 Report Share Posted January 21, 2012 Why isn't FRAM dead yet? they've been fucking over car engines for years! 1 Quote Link to comment
Laecaon Posted January 21, 2012 Report Share Posted January 21, 2012 I currently have a Black ProSelect in my car. Quote Link to comment
philcas1987 Posted January 21, 2012 Report Share Posted January 21, 2012 very biased . its just a regular wix filter. unless the napa reboxed relabeled is cheaper 1 Quote Link to comment
Laecaon Posted January 21, 2012 Report Share Posted January 21, 2012 very biased . its just a regular wix filter. unless the napa reboxed relabeled is cheaper Biased what? This is for his work, do they sell WIX at napa? Well they sell Napa Gold. I think the point is, dont buy Fram, which happens to be over hyped therefore over priced. Quote Link to comment
philcas1987 Posted January 21, 2012 Report Share Posted January 21, 2012 well im just saying hes trying to sell us on napa golds when its a relabeled wix that most parts houses carry.yes its for his work. and i hate that he does some shameless plugs here. give the credit to wix. he already sold dtp on napa Quote Link to comment
Sealik Posted January 21, 2012 Report Share Posted January 21, 2012 The local auto parts store also has some gutted filters on display.....saw them a couple of years back Was rather shocked when I saw how Fram was fabricated....bit of a joke. Have no Napa brand here....just Wix etc...but it's rather expensive...15 bucks I believe Another brand that comes from the same (Wix) factory is Auto Xtra...same filter, half the price Of course the guys at the store don't tell you about the 'cheaper' brand. Quote Link to comment
I'm BLUE Posted January 21, 2012 Report Share Posted January 21, 2012 well im just saying hes trying to sell us on napa golds when its a relabeled wix that most parts houses carry.yes its for his work. and i hate that he does some shameless plugs here. give the credit to wix. he already sold dtp on napa I had suddle sarcasm in my post ... haha :lol: I do indeed buy Wix, Napa Gold (when on sale) , and Bosch(again on sale lol) typically ... i buy the Napa pro selects from time to time. :) Quote Link to comment
HRH Posted January 21, 2012 Author Report Share Posted January 21, 2012 Um what? My napa sells the proselects like crazy! They dont even have Silvers for the Datsuns (asked a few times). I have an old one in my garage right now. Technically, the 2- filters are supposed to be a shop-only filter, probably depends on if it's Jobber or corporate. I don't know. That's just how it is up here. And no, I'm not biased, if someone bothered to look at the top post, I identified NAPA's Gold filter line as WIX before I posted the pics. Maybe someone needs to read the instructions! ;) EDIT: I'll leave this up here, because I indeed forgot to label the NAPA brand as WIX, my bad! See, we all make mistakes, I'm going to go fix that now. And since it piqued my curiosity, I just drove down to my local NAPA store and got a 21515 and 31515, which I will very shortly cut apart and post the results be they bad or good. Quote Link to comment
Stupid_fast Posted January 21, 2012 Report Share Posted January 21, 2012 I get K&N filters... cause' they are cool. Quote Link to comment
DRIVEN Posted January 21, 2012 Report Share Posted January 21, 2012 I currently have a Black ProSelect in my car. Yup, that's what we stock at the shop. They do sell them at the Napa store on Shaw thought. HRH, I know there would be some time/cost involved but I'd love to see some other brands cut open too. Or even a list of actual manufactures on some of the other chain brands if they can be verified. Thanks for the writeup! Quote Link to comment
Laecaon Posted January 21, 2012 Report Share Posted January 21, 2012 Mine is from the Napa next to the Airport. Sunset autoparts. Quote Link to comment
DRIVEN Posted January 21, 2012 Report Share Posted January 21, 2012 Mine is from the Napa next to the Airport. Sunset autoparts. Same network/owner. Quote Link to comment
Guest kamakazi620 Posted January 21, 2012 Report Share Posted January 21, 2012 I get K&N filters... cause' they are cool. Dosent it get messy when you wash it and re oil it???? Quote Link to comment
philcas1987 Posted January 21, 2012 Report Share Posted January 21, 2012 Technically, the 2- filters are supposed to be a shop-only filter, probably depends on if it's Jobber or corporate. I don't know. That's just how it is up here. And no, I'm not biased, if someone bothered to look at the top post, I identified NAPA's Gold filter line as WIX before I posted the pics. Maybe someone needs to read the instructions! ;) EDIT: I'll leave this up here, because I indeed forgot to label the NAPA brand as WIX, my bad! See, we all make mistakes, I'm going to go fix that now. And since it piqued my curiosity, I just drove down to my local NAPA store and got a 21515 and 31515, which I will very shortly cut apart and post the results be they bad or good. now we have something a good thread going. Quote Link to comment
philcas1987 Posted January 21, 2012 Report Share Posted January 21, 2012 Dosent it get messy when you wash it and re oil it???? haha youre still drunk Quote Link to comment
HRH Posted January 21, 2012 Author Report Share Posted January 21, 2012 ^lol!Okay, pleasantly surprised, cut apart THE CHEAPEST oil filter we sell. No separate bypass assembly, but still metal endcaps and still more pleats than even the FRAM 6x! Whoo hoo! Nitrile, not silicone anti-drain back valve, but to be expected from a cheaper filter. Same strong return spring, same quality of filter, albeit less pleats than the Gold. Next up is the Silver, which I'm just going to cut apart for shits and giggles since I have it now.Hit F5, had the wrong pics up for a second. Quote Link to comment
Guest kamakazi620 Posted January 21, 2012 Report Share Posted January 21, 2012 haha youre still drunk Nope..............it was a joke like the air filter you clean it hahahahaa Quote Link to comment
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