Eagle_Adam Posted June 17, 2013 Report Share Posted June 17, 2013 keep up the pic!!! i love seeing em!! 1 Quote Link to comment
I'm BLUE Posted June 18, 2013 Author Report Share Posted June 18, 2013 keep up the pic!!! i love seeing em!! Wil do then ! Thanks Adam :thumbup: Quote Link to comment
MicroMachinery Posted June 18, 2013 Report Share Posted June 18, 2013 ----------------- Plans ------------------------------ I'm robbing the bell-housing off the 4spd ... .... Off to the machine shop it goes ....... having it machined out ... (measure everything before they do right ? ;) ) ..... Bring it back to my place and fit it on the KA24DE transmission. I'll then shorten down (or have shortened) one of my spare 72-73 240z drifeshafts aprox 2" (haven't decided how much freeplay I want exactly) I also have the KA24DE trans mount and cross-member still attached , so I just may modify that to fit in mine :) . Time will tell though right ? haha. Install the 4.11 or 4.38 diff ( or possibly a different one :sneaky: ) Install the rebuilt half-shafts (once my parts get here that is lol) Look into a cheapo ISIS 240sx short-throw shifter as well , but we shall see. I have other stuff going in , but am a bit "off" right now lol Dude! You're an animal! I've never heard of this being done before, sounds very innovative. I'm gonna remember this is here for future reference.. keep after it; I love this build. 1 Quote Link to comment
I'm BLUE Posted June 18, 2013 Author Report Share Posted June 18, 2013 Dude! You're an animal! I've never heard of this being done before, sounds very innovative. I'm gonna remember this is here for future reference.. keep after it; I love this build. Thanks Micro !!! :thumbup: . I believe some have done the process :) , but I don't believe too many people in the real world have done it to be straight-forwardly honest ;) This is a neat process to go through for me !! :D I'm also a bit farther behind than I wish to be (all projects combined not just this one lol) , but hey... as long as the weather stays good ... I'll have no excuses !! ... this little "task" should be acheived :thumbup: Quote Link to comment
darrel Posted June 18, 2013 Report Share Posted June 18, 2013 If you can find a driveshaft from a series one before they converted to the backward placement of the r-180, it is already the length you need. 1 Quote Link to comment
Kirden Posted June 18, 2013 Report Share Posted June 18, 2013 Wow, what a project. Great attention to detail DTP! Looks like a ton of work. 1 Quote Link to comment
I'm BLUE Posted June 18, 2013 Author Report Share Posted June 18, 2013 If you can find a driveshaft from a series one before they converted to the backward placement of the r-180, it is already the length you need. I appreciate that darrel :cool: . I indeed have one of those in my posession , and was def counting on it in this case. Wanted to check that length out for sure... (once I get it all back-together + bolted up) then I can see for my own eyes ya know lol :D Reason being are my measurement's of my "c" type transmissions ..... conflict with a couple other's other measurements on the web .. lol ( I measured my "c" SX and SR transmissions --- exactly how datzenmike instructed *whip snap* ... :lol: ) Just wanna make sure I hit it on the nose !! :) I figured if I needed to have a spare shortened regardless for $90-$130 .. so be it ya know ? :) ( worst case/most cost.. scenario ) Wow, what a project. Great attention to detail DTP! Looks like a ton of work. Thanks Kirden :thumbup: ... this particular project is a fun one for myself :D haha .. :D ... it's not that bad really. Quote Link to comment
darrel Posted June 18, 2013 Report Share Posted June 18, 2013 Here's a great write up on the conversion. http://www.motortopia.com/cars/1973-datsun-240z-11118/car-pictures/240sx-transmission-swap-14041/page2#album Quote Link to comment
SlimerZ Posted June 19, 2013 Report Share Posted June 19, 2013 Hey great looking z. I know this was a few pages back but, what vehicle did the R180 differential with 4.11 gear come from? Also what year and or vehicle did the axels come from? Im new to the z car. Thanks Quote Link to comment
I'm BLUE Posted June 20, 2013 Author Report Share Posted June 20, 2013 even more small stuff update :rolleyes: Had to play "who will machine this" game with about 6+ machine shops. (understandably though really..) I did have a couple of generous offers , and I wanted to say Thankyou very much again as it's much appreciated !!! Getting the front-case clean/ready for the machine shop (A requirement in this case). Scrubbed with a quick brillo type pad ? (can't remember the brand/name.. harmless though). Cleaner than it was by far--- Will pressure wash , another scrub , and rinse then send it on it's way. (more updates in a few) Quote Link to comment
I'm BLUE Posted June 20, 2013 Author Report Share Posted June 20, 2013 -------- Some parts I was waiting on came in today ----------- Throwout bearing Alternator Drive bearings (6) caliper repair kits (1 kit per caliper) (4) Half-Shaft boot kits (2) wheel cylinder repair kits (4) Rear Wheel seals (2) Rear main seals (10) Front wheel seals (4) sets of Alternator brushes Alternator commutator bearing zx e12-80 distributor ignition pickup (2) pairs of wheel cylinder repair kits. alternator... with a blue background ( :cool:) and other stuff... lol carlson rear brake drum hardware kit. Quote Link to comment
mklotz70 Posted June 20, 2013 Report Share Posted June 20, 2013 subscribed :) 1 Quote Link to comment
Spoona_Jay21 Posted June 20, 2013 Report Share Posted June 20, 2013 ok i have to say this, i LOVE how detailed you are with your pics and info. makes for great reading :thumbup: 1 Quote Link to comment
I'm BLUE Posted June 22, 2013 Author Report Share Posted June 22, 2013 subscribed :) Awesome mklotz :cool: ! ok i have to say this, i LOVE how detailed you are with your pics and info. makes for great reading :thumbup: Thanks for the great words Spoona_Jay21 :) Quote Link to comment
I'm BLUE Posted June 22, 2013 Author Report Share Posted June 22, 2013 ---- Half-Shaft dis-assembly ---- I decided to dis-assemble my spare halfshafts to determine if they are indeed good candidates for rebuild/parts/or... !? Couple of run-of-the-mill snap-ring pliers , side-cutters , pliers , and a flat-bladed screw-driver (somewhere lol). Sorry for the grainy/blurry pictures in advance. My hands were greasy therefore the phone ended up being a bit that way :-/ Pulled back the boot on one of them and dis-covered a tiny tear which I made bigger before the picture... ( was fairly firm on the boot.... it goes through stressed/stretched ou abuse so why shouldn't I mimic this ya know ? lol ) Clipped off the stainless steel boot bands with side-cutters. (was later at night so I didn't want to make any noise...) On to the second band closest to the differential (inner). Peeled back the inner boot in order to reach the inner c-clip. A better angle of that inner c-clip I mentioned above ^^^ ( wiped off majority of grease for it to be seen :) ) I decided to use slighty "heavier" duty 90-degree angled snap-ring pliers. (more pictures coming)... Quote Link to comment
I'm BLUE Posted June 22, 2013 Author Report Share Posted June 22, 2013 Behind the snap-ring just taken out ^^^ there is a shim. Took it out and slid it down the shaft. Shim and Snap-ring together. Just left them on there as they have no-where else to go :) Flipped over the half-shaft and am now looking at the "butt" end of it (end that faces in towards the differential 3rd member). There is a snap-ring to take out here as well. 90-degree snap ring pliers are used here again. Snap-ring loose I then decided to push/lightly knock down the halfshat in the correct spot... to "nudge" the aluminum plug with an o-ring attached to the outer rim area out of the half-shaft. Pulled off that cap to re-veal this wonderful goodness :D This is a retaining spacer/washer for the (4) rows of balls/spacers in each joint. Notice the (4) tabs ? slighly gooey... Pulled the "male" end of the shaft out of the "female" housing. See that (4) point retainer we were talking about earlier ? Held in by you guessed it... 3-balls + 3-spacers = per half-shaft assembly (at least these two assembly's ... lol) Area closest to the top of the picture = differential end of male half-shaft plunger. Was time to pull it apart. WARNING: --- Do not do this in an area where if you drop a ball it will never be found again = yard , dirt , gravel , etc :) I dropped 1 ball thinking I would be able to "catch" them all ... boy was I wrong ... luckly I setup a "catch box" for this very purpose :cool: You'll see the balls rotating/wearing into the spacers... wouldn't worry about it too much. Female end of the half-shaft. Almost looks like the hole to enter the Death Star with an x-wing :sneaky: Just been working on other projects and cleaning these as I go where I can. Should be done before I and you know it though... *knock on wood* Thanks for reading ! DTP Quote Link to comment
Kirden Posted June 22, 2013 Report Share Posted June 22, 2013 These last two posts were kinda naughty... male shafts, female housings, dropping your balls everywhere. Also, it is slightly strange that your male parts have 3 balls... Too much info man. Lastly, I think your camera is a bit drunk. Either that or it is shy... But seriously, great write up. I really wish we had a tech wiki cause this is prime info. 1 Quote Link to comment
I'm BLUE Posted June 22, 2013 Author Report Share Posted June 22, 2013 These last two posts were kinda naughty... male shafts, female housings, dropping your balls everywhere. Also, it is slightly strange that your male parts have 3 balls... Too much info man. Lastly, I think your camera is a bit drunk. Either that or it is shy... But seriously, great write up. I really wish we had a tech wiki cause this is prime info. lol .... my camera was drunk ... my hands/gloves were so greasy I was having a hard time with the lens + working + grease = ... doh !!! Thanks Kirden :thumbup: ... Having a hard time getting any pics uploaded to photobucket atm :confused: 1 Quote Link to comment
I'm BLUE Posted June 22, 2013 Author Report Share Posted June 22, 2013 Oh yeah... I finished cleaning the front case and boxed it up (with many layers in sensitive areas) then shipped today via UPS Ground. Was told at least few days turn-around + shipping time. Quote Link to comment
cruznude Posted June 22, 2013 Report Share Posted June 22, 2013 Damn, you've got so much going on right now. How do you find the time? You must not be married or you have cool ass woman! :thumbup: Anyways, that was an excellent post and with all your pics it was like we all were there helping you. Good to see the parts came in and the tranny case being all done. Love that color BLUE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 1 Quote Link to comment
I'm BLUE Posted June 23, 2013 Author Report Share Posted June 23, 2013 Damn, you've got so much going on right now. How do you find the time? You must not be married or you have cool ass woman! :thumbup: Anyways, that was an excellent post and with all your pics it was like we all were there helping you. Good to see the parts came in and the tranny case being all done. Love that color BLUE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! lol... yeah there is quite a few things being taken apart/inspected/rebuilt/or-screwed up by myself :lol: ;) I learned to have bigger projects outside , evening projects , and later night projects ... funny thing is ... I'll move from one project to the next if I get frustrated ... in order to lax-out a bit from the last project lol (or if I don't have tools/parts) Yeah I was going to get married not that long ago , and that never happened (thank gawd... I can see clearly now ! LOL ) Thanks cruz I appreciate the feedback , and glad you see the last post like that :thumbup: ... it's awesome if someone can share/take-away even a bit or understanding or see a different way of things beeing done :) ( I know I sure do lol ) You sir have good taste lol ... I love the car's color BLUE to... :thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup: Quote Link to comment
Eagle_Adam Posted June 25, 2013 Report Share Posted June 25, 2013 you have some awesome write ups man!! Quote Link to comment
I'm BLUE Posted June 25, 2013 Author Report Share Posted June 25, 2013 you have some awesome write ups man!! Glad you like them ! thanks for the good words Adam :) Quote Link to comment
Kirden Posted June 25, 2013 Report Share Posted June 25, 2013 You should consolidate your write ups onto a disc and sell it on ebay. Like those "how to rebuild you ____ engine." Might be a decent money maker, and you would just need to use the material you are already working with anyway. 1 Quote Link to comment
I'm BLUE Posted June 26, 2013 Author Report Share Posted June 26, 2013 You should consolidate your write ups onto a disc and sell it on ebay. Like those "how to rebuild you ____ engine." Might be a decent money maker, and you would just need to use the material you are already working with anyway. Thanks for the kind words/suggestion Kirden :thumbup: I didn't think they were that good to be 100% honest :lol: I'll look into that direction possibly though :cool: that's pretty cool ! Quote Link to comment
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