jonahsturdy14 Posted December 17, 2012 Report Share Posted December 17, 2012 Ive heard alot of people swaping the front of 68-72 510's to 280z or280zx front suspension. What are the bonus' of doing that? Quote Link to comment
datsunfreak Posted December 17, 2012 Report Share Posted December 17, 2012 Shorter struts (less bottoming out), bigger brakes, better scrub radius, etc Quote Link to comment
datsunfreak Posted December 17, 2012 Report Share Posted December 17, 2012 And it's 280ZX only, 280Z doesn't work. Quote Link to comment
jonahsturdy14 Posted December 19, 2012 Author Report Share Posted December 19, 2012 Ok sweet thanks, Im going to look into that, and is it easyer to find like lowering kits for the 280zx front suspension rather then stock 510 Quote Link to comment
datsunfreak Posted December 19, 2012 Report Share Posted December 19, 2012 Ok sweet thanks, Im going to look into that, and is it easyer to find like lowering kits for the 280zx front suspension rather then stock 510 If we're talking adjustable coilovers, it's all the same stuff. It's usually based on the diameter of the strut tube which is the same. If you're talking about just lowering springs, you can NOT use 280ZX springs. They are too large in diameter to physically fit in the car. Also forgot to mention the 280ZX has bigger/stronger wheel bearings/hubs too. Also the inserts are way easier to find/buy, and the brake parts are easier to find/buy. Quote Link to comment
datzenmike Posted December 19, 2012 Report Share Posted December 19, 2012 When installed, the zx strut moves each front wheel in towards the car center about 3/4". If you have large rims on the stock strut this may cause the tire to rub the zx strut tube.You can keep the 510 strut and have it shortened several inches and fit shorter zx strut inserts. (basically an internal shock absorber)300zx inserts are even shorter. It's a lot of work and the top part with the threads in it must be kept and a section removed further down and the top part welded back on. The drawback is you don't get better (larger) calipers and a vented rotor.I replaced my 710 struts with a shorter Maxima strut from a station wagon. I only needed a couple of inches drop so it was fine and no cutting and welding. I shortened the stock spring to stiffen it. What I wanted was the calipers and vented rotors. Quote Link to comment
jonahsturdy14 Posted July 10, 2013 Author Report Share Posted July 10, 2013 Can you put z car struts in to a 510 or not? I know you can put the 280 zx ones in and get bigger brakes in the process but would it be just as easy to do z car ones? Quote Link to comment
INDY510 Posted July 10, 2013 Report Share Posted July 10, 2013 No to both questions Quote Link to comment
Tristin Posted July 10, 2013 Report Share Posted July 10, 2013 No to both questions /thread Quote Link to comment
Ratwagon1600 Posted July 10, 2013 Report Share Posted July 10, 2013 Am I allowed to suggest our new member he may wish to: 1. Post future questions about suspension in the suspension thread, and 2. Use the handy search function located in the top right hand corner of this wonderful site? Just tryinngto be helpful :rolleyes: Quote Link to comment
Tristin Posted July 10, 2013 Report Share Posted July 10, 2013 Seems to be a rookie question for someone with so many 510s... Quote Link to comment
HRH Posted July 10, 2013 Report Share Posted July 10, 2013 You can put z car struts in a 510, you just need to re-engineer the strut towers and the control arms, but sure, you can do it. :D 1 Quote Link to comment
jrock4224 Posted July 10, 2013 Report Share Posted July 10, 2013 the 280zx strut swap in a 510 is like the invention of toilet paper.... 4 Quote Link to comment
LenRobertson Posted July 10, 2013 Report Share Posted July 10, 2013 Seems to be a rookie question for someone with so many 510s... Maybe he has wisely been spending his time hunting for 510s instead of living on Ratsun all the time like I do. :P Which is giving me the idea I need more 510s myself. I have just 3 Datsuns and only one is a 510. I very much have 510 envy of someone with four! I can't remember why pre-ZX struts aren't considered kosher. I think it is the angle of the spindle to the strut, but could be something else. I just follow the gospel that says use ZX struts. Here is one thread I bookmarked on swapping: http://community.ratsun.net/topic/34171-280zx-struts/ Len Quote Link to comment
datzenmike Posted July 10, 2013 Report Share Posted July 10, 2013 No to both questions . yes to this. Quote Link to comment
HRH Posted July 10, 2013 Report Share Posted July 10, 2013 Yeah, Z car is WAAY more angle than a ZX. Non-usable angle. I believe it would cant the wheels into extreme positive camber? Quote Link to comment
jrock4224 Posted July 10, 2013 Report Share Posted July 10, 2013 is this in relation to or in addition to the other thread about struts u made...lol Quote Link to comment
Jesse C. Posted July 10, 2013 Report Share Posted July 10, 2013 I am running '84 200SX front struts. They are on par with 280ZX struts and they stick out a bit more than Z struts allowing for wider wheels with no rubbing issues. Not as easy to find as ZX struts, but, they are out there. Quote Link to comment
jrock4224 Posted July 10, 2013 Report Share Posted July 10, 2013 good info there..... the best gain is in wheel offset ... u can runs 0's with a little bit of massaging to the fender if u wanna go real low...zx s turn up for sale on here ... i think the going rate is like a used set for 160-180........then comes the fun part .....lots of info on the 200sx swap on ratsun too... Quote Link to comment
jonahsturdy14 Posted July 12, 2013 Author Report Share Posted July 12, 2013 Seems to be a rookie question for someone with so many 510s... Well i may have alot of 510's but i just started the datsun life only a few months ago so i dont know much yet 1 Quote Link to comment
Tristin Posted July 12, 2013 Report Share Posted July 12, 2013 Where in Washington are you? Quote Link to comment
datsunfreak Posted July 12, 2013 Report Share Posted July 12, 2013 Yeah, Z car is WAAY more angle than a ZX. Non-usable angle. I believe it would cant the wheels into extreme positive camber? I can't remember why pre-ZX struts aren't considered kosher. I think it is the angle of the spindle to the strut, but could be something else. I just follow the gospel that says use ZX struts. Positive camber and the strut doesn't actually bolt up to the steering knuckle. Nissan used a different bolt spacing on the S30 strut than pretty much everything else. ;) I have seen it done using the entire front suspension/crossmember/rack and pinion from a 240Z into a 510. But the fab expericence needed for that upgrade generally means you aren't the sort of fella to ask "how is it done?". :P Quote Link to comment
nerdistmonk Posted July 12, 2013 Report Share Posted July 12, 2013 the 280zx strut swap in a 510 is like the invention of toilet paper.... the invention of toilet paper, i can imagine it being a very very bland event, i can see someone going to take a shyster behind a tree and opposed to use those scratchy leafs which leaves bits and pieces on his behind he thinks to bring last weeks paper with him, so instead of leaf bits, he gets bits of the sports section on his keister instead. Thus toilet paper is born! (do not take this as a historic recreation of the event, im sure its quite different in the history books but i will leave my version up here just in case someone used said history books when they ran out of toilet paper, the ultimate irony perhaps?) Quote Link to comment
jrock4224 Posted July 12, 2013 Report Share Posted July 12, 2013 no thats the way i remember it happening ,,,up in canada..... Quote Link to comment
datzenmike Posted July 12, 2013 Report Share Posted July 12, 2013 Hey we invented poutine and Nanaimo bars, snowmobiles, the goalie mask an the Wonderbra. Bark was used for TP. Quote Link to comment
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