80datson Posted May 31, 2011 Report Share Posted May 31, 2011 So the other day i picked up a ka from a 240 at the junkyard.. it seems to be in ok condition and i think it shud start up just fine.. now i have to get it in. besides flipping the crossmember and reweld. and inline fuel pump. what els do i need to fab to get this thing in? tranny mount? can i refab a 240 trans mount? and also where can i get those relays that are already set up so i can wire it up easyer? any info will help thanks! Quote Link to comment
datzenmike Posted May 31, 2011 Report Share Posted May 31, 2011 EFI made easier.... http://community.rat...__1#entry415250 Talk to Jef Hino... Icehouse http://community.rat...ser/3-icehouse/ Um....... what are you using for a transmission.?? 1 Quote Link to comment
80datson Posted May 31, 2011 Author Report Share Posted May 31, 2011 thanks!. stock 240 trans? Quote Link to comment
Wide14u Posted May 31, 2011 Report Share Posted May 31, 2011 don't forget to take lots of pic for us Quote Link to comment
80datson Posted May 31, 2011 Author Report Share Posted May 31, 2011 would that work for it datzenmike? or was i suppose to get a differ? Quote Link to comment
datsunfreak Posted June 1, 2011 Report Share Posted June 1, 2011 besides flipping the crossmember and reweld. Don't do that. the 210 uses a front sump pan already. There are no crossmember mods required. Sway bar will hit the pan, though. Will need aftermarket sway bar, or figure out how to space down the frame mounts. and inline fuel pump. 79-83 280ZX pump works well with this engine, is external/inline mount, and comes mounted to a nice soft rubber base (nice and quiet). what els do i need to fab to get this thing in? tranny mount? can i refab a 240 trans mount? 240SX tranny crossmember can probably be modded to fit. But if it has a flat floor like the rest of the Sunny line (and I think it does), tranny crossmember should be cake to fab. Use two 1200 motor mounts, bolted to a flat metal plate, bolt that to the floor. If you can't find 1200 motor mounts, you can use mid-80s BMW 325i trans mounts (needs two, not expensive). Quote Link to comment
80datson Posted June 2, 2011 Author Report Share Posted June 2, 2011 so today i did a lil cleaning to the engine. i ran out of degrssr so was forced to stop Quote Link to comment
flatcat19 Posted June 2, 2011 Report Share Posted June 2, 2011 Awesome. I could be wrong(I am alot), but isn't that tranny way too long? Quote Link to comment
vex210 Posted June 2, 2011 Report Share Posted June 2, 2011 Nice score.... Deucedim maid it work (http://community.ratsun.net/topic/26023-my-210-coupe-build-short-version/ ) fitting the ka.:blink: Quote Link to comment
ggzilla Posted June 2, 2011 Report Share Posted June 2, 2011 The long shaft trans will fit, cut new shifter hole 4.5 " back Or fit a shorty 5 for a true bolt in Quote Link to comment
80datson Posted June 3, 2011 Author Report Share Posted June 3, 2011 The long shaft trans will fit, cut new shifter hole 4.5 " back Or fit a shorty 5 for a true bolt in shorty 5? whats that?? picc? Quote Link to comment
datsunfreak Posted June 3, 2011 Report Share Posted June 3, 2011 shorty 5? whats that?? picc? I know you can use a short-tail 5spd from a Z20S-powered 510 (80-82). Looks kinda like this: But if you're going to beat on it hard, I'd stick with the KA trans. ;) Quote Link to comment
datsunfreak Posted June 3, 2011 Report Share Posted June 3, 2011 FYI, there's a very good chance you don't have to change the whole pedal assembly, just the pedals themselves. Most Datsuns have the place to mount the clutch pedal, even on the auto cars. Swapping pedals is a 5-10 minute job. Swapping the pedal assembly is a 1-2 hour job. :cool: i got this from a 79 210 at the junk hard with hardlines for clutch mstr. i got lucky!! Quote Link to comment
datsunfreak Posted June 3, 2011 Report Share Posted June 3, 2011 Also, the shorty 5spd would probably allow you to keep your current shifter console/surround. ;) Quote Link to comment
80datson Posted June 3, 2011 Author Report Share Posted June 3, 2011 I know you can use a short-tail 5spd from a Z20S-powered 510 (80-82). Looks kinda like this: But if you're going to beat on it hard, I'd stick with the KA trans. ;) ok ill stick with the ka trans.. also i noticed the shifter seems loose it wobbles. what can i do to fix that? FYI, there's a very good chance you don't have to change the whole pedal assembly, just the pedals themselves. Most Datsuns have the place to mount the clutch pedal, even on the auto cars. Swapping pedals is a 5-10 minute job. Swapping the pedal assembly is a 1-2 hour job. :cool: thats great info im going to check it out that will save me alot of time thanks! Quote Link to comment
ggzilla Posted June 3, 2011 Report Share Posted June 3, 2011 There are several shorties including 63 and 71 series For KA, go with FS5W71B, which is stronger than this one fo mo detail see http://datsun1200.com/modules/mediawiki/index.php?title=Stumpy Quote Link to comment
datsunfreak Posted June 3, 2011 Report Share Posted June 3, 2011 Thanks for the better pic. Forgot the stumpy Z20S dogleg didn't have a ribbed case. :P Quote Link to comment
datsunfreak Posted June 3, 2011 Report Share Posted June 3, 2011 ok ill stick with the ka trans.. also i noticed the shifter seems loose it wobbles. what can i do to fix that? There should be plastic bushings in the shifter (you'll see them when you take it apart). Those probably need to be replaced. Should be able to get them from the dealer for a few bucks. Quote Link to comment
80datson Posted June 4, 2011 Author Report Share Posted June 4, 2011 Also, the shorty 5spd would probably allow you to keep your current shifter console/surround. ;) are they hard to find? There should be plastic bushings in the shifter (you'll see them when you take it apart). Those probably need to be replaced. Should be able to get them from the dealer for a few bucks. i will go tommarro n check them out. also my inline fuel pump came in the mail today im excited! also my spark plug wires aswell. Quote Link to comment
ggzilla Posted June 4, 2011 Report Share Posted June 4, 2011 Shorties are not hard to find except the strong one, which comes from 720 pickup. Quote Link to comment
80datson Posted June 5, 2011 Author Report Share Posted June 5, 2011 what drive shaft am i suppose to use? Quote Link to comment
ggzilla Posted June 5, 2011 Report Share Posted June 5, 2011 If you use shorty trans, bolt in stock 210 auto shaft Long trans, pay $150 to get auto shaft shortened Quote Link to comment
datsunfreak Posted June 5, 2011 Report Share Posted June 5, 2011 If you use shorty trans, bolt in stock 210 auto shaft Long trans, pay $150 to get auto shaft shortened Yes, but... It probably has staked in u-joints. Most driveline shops won't shorten these. If that's the case, you can either have a new one made, or if it has the larger diff flange, shorten a 510 driveshaft to fit it. Do you know a driveline shop that will shorten one with non-serviceable u-joints? Quote Link to comment
ggzilla Posted June 5, 2011 Report Share Posted June 5, 2011 Yes, search google for ratsun staked u-joints. Most shops just use a new tube, but they talked about ones that will shorten Price comes out the same, not cheap Quote Link to comment
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