Doctoraudio Posted May 20, 2023 Author Report Share Posted May 20, 2023 (edited) Did, i order the wrong part? The Z22 timing chain is shorter than the L20B? At this point I have no idea. So, I am asking. Which timing chain should I be using on this LZ22 combo? Edited May 20, 2023 by Doctoraudio Quote Link to comment
Doctoraudio Posted May 20, 2023 Author Report Share Posted May 20, 2023 Okay, been reading again! Before I bought the new timing chain, I wanted to make sure I had the right one. So I went to Napa's website and searched for 2 motors. #1 1980 Datsun 510 L20B (1954cc) #2 1982 Datsun 720 Z22 (2287cc) Both engines use the same timing chain, it says! These are the part numbers that come up under both searches. Part #: NTP 94131 Part #: ATM 23102 1 Quote Link to comment
datzenmike Posted May 20, 2023 Report Share Posted May 20, 2023 They are wrong. The L20B and the Z22 (and Z20) use the same block deck height so if putting an L head on a Z22 you need the L20B timing chain because the L20B cam sits higher than the Z 22 cam. The L20B chain has 44 links between the timing marks on both sprockets. The Z22 has only 38 links. 2 Quote Link to comment
Doctoraudio Posted May 22, 2023 Author Report Share Posted May 22, 2023 https://www.oreillyauto.com/detail/c/melling/engines---transmissions/timing-parts/timing-chain/551bfa2220c7/melling-timing-chain/mel0/3dr114/v/a/6605/automotive-car-1978-nissan-200sx?q=timing+chain&pos=2 Quote Link to comment
Doctoraudio Posted May 22, 2023 Author Report Share Posted May 22, 2023 (edited) 114 links total in the chain. I made my own timing chain for mock up. That is how I figured it out! The chain I bought had 102 links! New timing chain get here Tues! I was able to get it all lined up TDC on all the marks! Going to strip paint off the block tomorrow. Edited May 22, 2023 by Doctoraudio Quote Link to comment
banzai510(hainz) Posted May 22, 2023 Report Share Posted May 22, 2023 (edited) make sure the water pump matches the fan holes. I tryed t a use a Z car water pump and I couldnt use my fanpully the fan as the holes linerd up different so I got the 510 back on there and lines up perfect with the alternator also, get the Aisin WPN 032 made in Japan about 50-60 $ if 25$ its China!!!!!!!! put chain on from Top down so you can get it tighter dont use the Timming wedge on first go around that for when you take off the head in car type stuff. Edited May 22, 2023 by banzai510(hainz) Quote Link to comment
Doctoraudio Posted May 23, 2023 Author Report Share Posted May 23, 2023 I have the fan and water pump from the Z22 that came on the engine. It's new. And I also have a brand new one for the L18. Quote Link to comment
Doctoraudio Posted May 23, 2023 Author Report Share Posted May 23, 2023 Pole position #1 1 Quote Link to comment
Doctoraudio Posted May 23, 2023 Author Report Share Posted May 23, 2023 Going to fix that crack later in the week . 2 Quote Link to comment
Doctoraudio Posted May 24, 2023 Author Report Share Posted May 24, 2023 got a lot done. And a lot more to be done. Quote Link to comment
iceman510 Posted May 24, 2023 Report Share Posted May 24, 2023 Keep it up! Any progress is good progress. Quote Link to comment
Doctoraudio Posted May 25, 2023 Author Report Share Posted May 25, 2023 Always wanted a white engine block! There is no reason to keep waiting for it to happen! Decided to use HVT 2000-degree paint. And I used the 2000-degree primer! It looks fabulous! 1 Quote Link to comment
Doctoraudio Posted May 25, 2023 Author Report Share Posted May 25, 2023 How should I got about moving the dip stick? I see a brass fillet in the front dip stick spot. I want to put it on the passenger side of the car! Quote Link to comment
iceman510 Posted May 25, 2023 Report Share Posted May 25, 2023 I think you can just pry the stick out, and remove the brass plug you mention and switch them. If you can't pry it from the outside, you may be able to tap them out from the bottom. 2 Quote Link to comment
Stoffregen Motorsports Posted May 25, 2023 Report Share Posted May 25, 2023 Be careful when prying the dipstick tube out from the top. You can accidentally compress the part that goes into the block, making it smaller and loose. Reinstall both the dipstick tube and the plug with a dab of RTV, so they don't leak. 2 Quote Link to comment
Doctoraudio Posted May 25, 2023 Author Report Share Posted May 25, 2023 Today is my Birthday! Man, I am so honored! This seems to be the best time to do all I am doing. I got one of my presents today! 1 Quote Link to comment
Doctoraudio Posted May 25, 2023 Author Report Share Posted May 25, 2023 I received a new hoist. Two of my buddies, bought this for me. I told them about a day ago, i may need one! Wow! 2 Quote Link to comment
iceman510 Posted May 26, 2023 Report Share Posted May 26, 2023 (edited) Looks like you have to drill the RH side dipstick hole. You can see the boss right after the second N in NissaN. Happy Birthday, BTW. Edited May 26, 2023 by iceman510 1 Quote Link to comment
Doctoraudio Posted May 26, 2023 Author Report Share Posted May 26, 2023 35 minutes ago, iceman510 said: Looks like you have to drill the RH side dipstick hole. You can see the boss right after the second N in NissaN. Happy Birthday, BTW. Yeah, I think your right. I will get what ever I need tomorrow! Tonight, I party! Thank you! 1 Quote Link to comment
datzenmike Posted May 26, 2023 Report Share Posted May 26, 2023 The boss is higher on the right side. If running in the L series position the block will be leaning to the right a total of about 18 degrees which helps. The oil relative to the block will be higher on the right. You might have to get a longer stick. I would definitely fill with 4 liters or w/e full is and check what the reading says. I would pull the original one and turn 180 so it's out of the way and then check oil when the engine is cold. Happy B Day Quote Link to comment
Doctoraudio Posted May 26, 2023 Author Report Share Posted May 26, 2023 9 hours ago, datzenmike said: The boss is higher on the right side. If running in the L series position the block will be leaning to the right a total of about 18 degrees which helps. The oil relative to the block will be higher on the right. You might have to get a longer stick. I would definitely fill with 4 liters or w/e full is and check what the reading says. I would pull the original one and turn 180 so it's out of the way and then check oil when the engine is cold. Happy B Day I would love to move it. And If I am, it's the right time? Thank you for the Happy B-day! Quote Link to comment
Stoffregen Motorsports Posted May 26, 2023 Report Share Posted May 26, 2023 Can you find a 510 dipstick and tube? I'd go that route. Quote Link to comment
Doctoraudio Posted May 26, 2023 Author Report Share Posted May 26, 2023 I will do some measuring to day of what I have. I have a dipstick out of a 1600. I should pull the 1800 out of my wagon and remove the pan. 1 Quote Link to comment
datzenmike Posted May 26, 2023 Report Share Posted May 26, 2023 L series? They have solid stick that won't go around that bend. 2 Quote Link to comment
Stoffregen Motorsports Posted May 26, 2023 Report Share Posted May 26, 2023 1 hour ago, datzenmike said: L series? They have solid stick that won't go around that bend. Drill the other side of the block. 1 Quote Link to comment
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