bottomwatcher Posted September 27, 2021 Report Share Posted September 27, 2021 (edited) Back ups too. Brakes are also led Edited September 27, 2021 by bottomwatcher Misspelling 1 Quote Link to comment
Veraciousreasoning Posted October 1, 2021 Report Share Posted October 1, 2021 On 9/26/2021 at 6:51 PM, bottomwatcher said: Back ups too. Brakes are also led Do you have a link to where you got them? 1 Quote Link to comment
captain720 Posted October 2, 2021 Report Share Posted October 2, 2021 10 hours ago, Veraciousreasoning said: Do you have a link to where you got them? It can be done by just replacing the bulbs and installing a resistor/electronic flasher. The DOT approval is questionable and worth taking into consideration when going that route 1 Quote Link to comment
Veraciousreasoning Posted October 2, 2021 Report Share Posted October 2, 2021 5 hours ago, captain720 said: It can be done by just replacing the bulbs and installing a resistor/electronic flasher. The DOT approval is questionable and worth taking into consideration when going that route DO you replace them with a LED bulb? and can you expand on the resistor/electronic flasher? Kind of don't know what that is. I am new to all of this so sorry about that. 1 Quote Link to comment
bottomwatcher Posted October 2, 2021 Report Share Posted October 2, 2021 This is what I used. Got em off ebay. Just 1157 led brake lights in red. White would probably work fine with the red lens. 1 Quote Link to comment
Veraciousreasoning Posted October 2, 2021 Report Share Posted October 2, 2021 1 hour ago, bottomwatcher said: This is what I used. Got em off ebay. Just 1157 led brake lights in red. White would probably work fine with the red lens. I found a bunch on amazon with good review. I am going to assume you just install it like a regular bulb? 1 Quote Link to comment
bottomwatcher Posted October 3, 2021 Report Share Posted October 3, 2021 4 hours ago, Veraciousreasoning said: I found a bunch on amazon with good review. I am going to assume you just install it like a regular bulb? Yep. Brake lights, headlights are fine. The only real issue with LEDs is in the turn signal circuit. The old style flashers need some resistance to operate. This is solved by installing a resister inline with the new bulb or a new flasher unit. Waste of time really for the flashers. 2 Quote Link to comment
datzenmike Posted October 3, 2021 Report Share Posted October 3, 2021 I had to put resistors on both rear turn/brake lamps like the ones above so the flasher would work. I think the lamps are 20 watt so at 12v that's 1.66 amps. Using E/I x R then the resistance is 7.22 ohms. A 7 or 8 ohm resister will draw the correct current to trigger the flasher however it's still 20 watts and that's huge for a resister. You can run a higher wattage rating, this is just it's ability to shed heat. 1 Quote Link to comment
Veraciousreasoning Posted October 3, 2021 Report Share Posted October 3, 2021 13 hours ago, datzenmike said: I had to put resistors on both rear turn/brake lamps like the ones above so the flasher would work. I think the lamps are 20 watt so at 12v that's 1.66 amps. Using E/I x R then the resistance is 7.22 ohms. A 7 or 8 ohm resister will draw the correct current to trigger the flasher however it's still 20 watts and that's huge for a resister. You can run a higher wattage rating, this is just it's ability to shed heat. If I just install them on my headlights do I need the resister? 1 Quote Link to comment
bottomwatcher Posted October 3, 2021 Report Share Posted October 3, 2021 40 minutes ago, Veraciousreasoning said: If I just install them on my headlights do I need the resister? No. The headlights just use a simple relay. The resistor is to give flasher unit some resistance otherwise it doesn't sense the bulb because the current draw is so low for a LEDs. 1 Quote Link to comment
Charlie69 Posted October 3, 2021 Report Share Posted October 3, 2021 With LEDs you will want to buy red for red lenses amber for amber lenses and green for green and blue for blue. Because of the brightness of the LEDs if you use whitet LEDs behind colored lenses you will not see much of the color. Quote Link to comment
Veraciousreasoning Posted October 3, 2021 Report Share Posted October 3, 2021 6 hours ago, bottomwatcher said: No. The headlights just use a simple relay. The resistor is to give flasher unit some resistance otherwise it doesn't sense the bulb because the current draw is so low for a LEDs. I am new to all of this. Can you show me a resistor that could work? I am trying to learn all of this and its all very complicated but I do love it. 1 Quote Link to comment
bottomwatcher Posted October 3, 2021 Report Share Posted October 3, 2021 I didn't put LEDs in the turn signals. If you do that is why you need a resistor to "trick" the flasher to work. You may be able to substitute a new flasher from a modern car but why bother for turn signals? I wanted bright headlights, tail lights and brake lights. No resistor needed. I don't know why Mike needed a resistor for his brake lights. The brake lights operate off a switch. Anyways here is a shot of my LED headlights while off. It is a glass housing and replaceable bulbs. Got them of ebay for about $70. 1 Quote Link to comment
datzenmike Posted October 3, 2021 Report Share Posted October 3, 2021 Because the brake and the turn signals use a shared bulb. This is true on my 710 and the 620. 19 hours ago, datzenmike said: I had to put resistors on both rear turn/brake lamps like the ones above so the flasher would work. I think the lamps are 20 watt so at 12v that's 1.66 amps. Using E/I x R then the resistance is 7.22 ohms. A 7 or 8 ohm resister will draw the correct current to trigger the flasher however it's still 20 watts and that's huge for a resister. You can run a higher wattage rating, this is just it's ability to shed heat. https://www.amazon.ca/uxcell®-Aluminum-Resistor-Wirewound-Resistors/dp/B07D21493L/ref=sr_1_13?dchild=1&keywords=8+ohm+20+watt+resistor&qid=1633297665&sr=8-13 I'm guessing the stock turn signal bulbs are 20 watt??? Just wire this in parallel with the LEDs 1 Quote Link to comment
bottomwatcher Posted October 3, 2021 Report Share Posted October 3, 2021 5 minutes ago, datzenmike said: Because the brake and the turn signals use a shared bulb. This is true on my 710 and the 620. https://www.amazon.ca/uxcell®-Aluminum-Resistor-Wirewound-Resistors/dp/B07D21493L/ref=sr_1_13?dchild=1&keywords=8+ohm+20+watt+resistor&qid=1633297665&sr=8-13 I'm guessing the stock turn signal bulbs are 20 watt??? Just wire this in parallel with the LEDs 720s have their own separate bulbs for turn signals that would explain the confusion. 1 Quote Link to comment
datzenmike Posted October 3, 2021 Report Share Posted October 3, 2021 The 710 and 620 turn switch (and probably others) disconnects the brake wire to the rear from the brake switch and connects the flasher unit. 1 Quote Link to comment
Madkaw Posted October 5, 2021 Report Share Posted October 5, 2021 I hate getting blinded by cheap LEDs that aren’t properly focused . On my Z I went with Cibie lens and relays because my 71 didn’t have relays . The lights are equivalent to by 2017 VW lights . The lens makes all the difference and how the bright light is focused . I would not consider LEDs unless there was a proven lens that works with it 1 Quote Link to comment
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