VintageRice Posted September 13, 2012 Report Share Posted September 13, 2012 Ya think! I was like................omg..................(facepalm)...............why didnt I check this sooner.................... 2 Quote Link to comment
doomdatsun Posted September 15, 2012 Report Share Posted September 15, 2012 what motorcycles would have triple setups (three carbs), and would a single set be ok to run 2 cylinders on it or should be using single carb for each cyl(two sets)? Does marine carbs perform the same ? Quote Link to comment
VintageRice Posted September 15, 2012 Report Share Posted September 15, 2012 what motorcycles would have triple setups (three carbs), and would a single set be ok to run 2 cylinders on it or should be using single carb for each cyl(two sets)? Does marine carbs perform the same ? I read your post like 4 times...........was so confused. Then came to the conclusion you must have a 6 cyl?? If I had a v6 id use one single downdraft carb thats cheap and ez like a holley or edelbrock 4 barrel. If you have a inline 6 you could get 2 sets of carbs off a 3 cyl bike. But linking them together might be a pain.. Quote Link to comment
doomdatsun Posted September 15, 2012 Report Share Posted September 15, 2012 yes, I have six cyl, kind of annoyed that 4 cyl people get the ready product and even cheaper than a inline six, anyhow would like to really know what bike would have carburators worth putting on car, I asked my uncle about his marine engine (its a V6) he said that each cyl had its own carb, would the marine engines be the same as motorcycles (THE carbs!) Quote Link to comment
72240z Posted September 15, 2012 Report Share Posted September 15, 2012 A ton of bike carbs are modular so the number of cylinders in inconsequential. You just buy 2 sets and use 6 of them. Quote Link to comment
HudsonMC Posted September 16, 2012 Report Share Posted September 16, 2012 A ton of bike carbs are modular so the number of cylinders in inconsequential. You just buy 2 sets and use 6 of them. Pretty much this. Take the middle carbs out of the second set of carbs and add them in the middle of the second set. The end carbs are a little different. Quote Link to comment
slingshot532 Posted September 16, 2012 Report Share Posted September 16, 2012 Nice work Rice. :thumbup: Quote Link to comment
datzenmike Posted September 16, 2012 Report Share Posted September 16, 2012 750 Yamaha had them. Quote Link to comment
72240z Posted September 16, 2012 Report Share Posted September 16, 2012 A bunch had them but the spacing isnt going to be right and they are going to have to be broken up anyway. Those look like SU style Mike, interesting. Quote Link to comment
VintageRice Posted September 16, 2012 Report Share Posted September 16, 2012 A bunch had them but the spacing isnt going to be right and they are going to have to be broken up anyway. Those look like SU style Mike, interesting. Spacing doesnt matter, thats what a custom built intake is for! B) Quote Link to comment
spudly13 Posted September 16, 2012 Report Share Posted September 16, 2012 Spacing doesnt matter, thats what a custom built intake is for! B) I was thinking the same thing! Quote Link to comment
Drummerboy4as Posted September 16, 2012 Report Share Posted September 16, 2012 Spacing matters when it comes time to link all the throttles together and have an adjustment to sync them... Quote Link to comment
INDY510 Posted September 16, 2012 Report Share Posted September 16, 2012 . I've researched all over the net, and have NEVER seen R1 carbs broken apart and spaced out . seen it done to R1 ITB's with EFI (doesn't look easy) Quote Link to comment
Drummerboy4as Posted September 16, 2012 Report Share Posted September 16, 2012 Oh and you'd have to machine in fuel inlets for each carb and plug the holes on either side of each carb where the fuel lines connect and make linkages for the enrichners for those cold morning starts. Trying to spit them up is way more work than its worth :/ Quote Link to comment
72240z Posted September 16, 2012 Report Share Posted September 16, 2012 Spacing matters when it comes time to link all the throttles together and have an adjustment to sync them... Yep thats the general idea. Vintage you shouldn't talk trash either since you custom intake has been fail this whole time :-P. Also for the sake of I6 which is the topic nothing is cheaper/easier then just using a dcoe manifold that a person could get anywhere. . I've researched all over the net, and have NEVER seen R1 carbs broken apart and spaced out . seen it done to R1 ITB's with EFI (doesn't look easy) Look harder Its not common because its self defeating. On an I4 with a hacked up mani its simple and easy but on an I6 having the custom make a mani and space them out without having to is kind of silly. You can just slap on dcoes which can be had cheap if a person is smart and have a ton of support/parts avail. Doing it with the efi is a cake walk by comparison. The spacers are just tubes, I have seen people use tube with a threaded rod through the entire set to bind them together. The modular fuel rail is just tube with an o ring on each side. Thats very easy to just make or have made longer/shorter tubes to keep the rail proper. There are people even machining press fit dcoe flanges. This idea isnt some cool grass roots idea anymore its so played its just about off the shelf lol. This is the rt I'll be taking with my set up at some point in the near future. Quote Link to comment
VintageRice Posted September 17, 2012 Report Share Posted September 17, 2012 Yep thats the general idea. Vintage you shouldn't talk trash either since you custom intake has been fail this whole time :-P. Ouch dude, that's cold...........just plain cold. ^_^ Quote Link to comment
spudly13 Posted September 17, 2012 Report Share Posted September 17, 2012 Yep thats the general idea. Vintage you shouldn't talk trash either since you custom intake has been fail this whole time :-P. Also for the sake of I6 which is the topic nothing is cheaper/easier then just using a dcoe manifold that a person could get anywhere. Look harder Its not common because its self defeating. On an I4 with a hacked up mani its simple and easy but on an I6 having the custom make a mani and space them out without having to is kind of silly. You can just slap on dcoes which can be had cheap if a person is smart and have a ton of support/parts avail. Doing it with the efi is a cake walk by comparison. The spacers are just tubes, I have seen people use tube with a threaded rod through the entire set to bind them together. The modular fuel rail is just tube with an o ring on each side. Thats very easy to just make or have made longer/shorter tubes to keep the rail proper. There are people even machining press fit dcoe flanges. This idea isnt some cool grass roots idea anymore its so played its just about off the shelf lol. This is the rt I'll be taking with my set up at some point in the near future. i like it! if you end up doing it you should post some results here, id be curious to see how it turns out! Quote Link to comment
72240z Posted September 17, 2012 Report Share Posted September 17, 2012 Ouch dude, that's cold...........just plain cold. ^_^ Haha just busting balls, shit happens to everyone. i like it! if you end up doing it you should post some results here, id be curious to see how it turns out! Haha me too lol hopefully I can get my z painted so I can get into efi prep. Quote Link to comment
VintageRice Posted September 21, 2012 Report Share Posted September 21, 2012 Fixed intake leaks, put 17.5 jets back in. 3 turns out. most of the popping went away on idle, decel is still there but much quieter. With full exhaust I might not notice as much. But now got lots of white smoke once warm. Pretty sure water is blowing by into the number one runner................DANGIT !!! Had this happen before, that water neck is just so dang close it doesnt like to seal up all the time. Gotta prolly pull the intake again..............will look at it tomorrow.........anyone got a EFI setup for sale?? j/k Video of exhaust Quote Link to comment
datzenmike Posted September 21, 2012 Report Share Posted September 21, 2012 Those look like SU style Mike, interesting. The R-1s are constant velocity and more or less an SU style. Also for the sake of I6 which is the topic nothing is cheaper/easier then just using a dcoe manifold that a person could get anywhere. Look harder Why equal length? The ports on the head are staggered anyway. But now got lots of white smoke once warm. Pretty sure water is blowing by into the number one runner................DANGIT !!! Had this happen before, that water neck is just so dang close it doesnt like to seal up all the time. Gotta prolly pull the intake again..............will look at it tomorrow.........anyone got a EFI setup for sale?? j/k Tap and plug those two water holes. Quote Link to comment
VintageRice Posted September 21, 2012 Report Share Posted September 21, 2012 What are you talking about Mike ? ? ? Ka24e. Not L Quote Link to comment
DADZSUN Posted September 21, 2012 Report Share Posted September 21, 2012 Fixed intake leaks, put 17.5 jets back in. 3 turns out. most of the popping went away on idle, decel is still there but much quieter. With full exhaust I might not notice as much. But now got lots of white smoke once warm. Pretty sure water is blowing by into the number one runner................DANGIT !!! Sorry to hear about that. Good news is that it sounds like it's easy enough to fix. I enjoy reading about 510 owners and their DIY attempts. There's some great ingenuity out there. However, I want to make sure that the casual reader is not mislead with your minor setbacks. The issues you're experiencing (air/water leaks, clamps strength etc...) is exactly why I spend the extra coin for a Bogg manifold. Install and forget - it really is that easy. :thumbup: Quote Link to comment
Drummerboy4as Posted September 21, 2012 Report Share Posted September 21, 2012 Sorry to hear about that. Good news is that it sounds like it's easy enough to fix. I enjoy reading about 510 owners and their DIY attempts. There's some great ingenuity out there. However, I want to make sure that the casual reader is not mislead with your minor setbacks. The issues you're experiencing (air/water leaks, clamps strength etc...) is exactly why I spend the extra coin for a Bogg manifold. Install and forget - it really is that easy. :thumbup: Word! Love my Bogg bros mani! Not one problem with it and its soooo pretty Quote Link to comment
VintageRice Posted September 21, 2012 Report Share Posted September 21, 2012 How do you Contact these guys anyway? Got email? Quote Link to comment
HudsonMC Posted September 21, 2012 Report Share Posted September 21, 2012 How do you Contact these guys anyway? Got email? Yeah, that's how I did it. The email was posted earlier in this thread somewhere.... found it: boggbrothersltd@btconnect.com Quote Link to comment
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