510_Chips Posted July 10, 2016 Report Share Posted July 10, 2016 This is my first post and naturally I was planning on this being filled with shiny and not so shiny pictures of my Dime build so far - I will get to that, but first I need your help. My new coilovers just arrived from T3 on stock 510 struts (I know I know ZX....but I wanted 510 and will be putting Wilwood brakes on there). All this time I thought I had stock struts on there, seems they may be B210 or A10. Either way the hubs I have do not fit the "new" 510 struts. I can't find a pair of stock 510 hubs anywhere so I wanted to reach out and see if anyone either has them, or has suggestions on what other options I have (610, 710?). Any info is greatly appreciated! Quote Link to comment
datzenmike Posted July 10, 2016 Report Share Posted July 10, 2016 If you have 510 struts only 510 hubs will fit them I believe. Most everything after the 510 had a larger wheel bearing and spindle. The 610 made before June '73 had the older small bearing but the hub? It would likely fit the 510 spindle but who knows where this would position the rotor???? You have T3 coil overs on stock 510 struts... so just swap them over to the struts you have now. Quote Link to comment
510_Chips Posted July 11, 2016 Author Report Share Posted July 11, 2016 Thanks for the fast reply. Looks like the search for 510 hubs continues. I would swap them over had I not purchased the complete setup and not just the coilover conversion kit. Thanks again. Quote Link to comment
bananahamuck Posted July 11, 2016 Report Share Posted July 11, 2016 Why do you think they are A10 or B210 struts?? I had a picture of A10 and 510 next to each other but i forgot where it is Both B210 and A10 have really small diameter springs compared to 510 Quote Link to comment
510_Chips Posted July 11, 2016 Author Report Share Posted July 11, 2016 I don't know for sure, it was suggested to me that they might be. If I can figure out how to upload an image I'll do so. Quote Link to comment
flatcat19 Posted July 11, 2016 Report Share Posted July 11, 2016 If you ordered 510 struts and they are not 510 struts call them up and say something. Welcome to Datsun. Split collars would have saved you money and allowed you to spend all that coilover money on other project tidbits. Quote Link to comment
bananahamuck Posted July 11, 2016 Report Share Posted July 11, 2016 New struts are 510,, struts in/ came out of car are what he's asking about. If you ordered 510 struts and they are not 510 struts call them up and say something. Welcome to Datsun. Split collars would ha e save you money by and allowed you spend all that coilover money on other project tidbits. Quote Link to comment
flatcat19 Posted July 11, 2016 Report Share Posted July 11, 2016 I'm confused then. If you removed 510 struts,got 510 struts back...where did the hub's from the 510 struts go? Or are you saying 210 struts were installed before you took them apart? Back to the split collar argument being the viable option then. Quote Link to comment
510_Chips Posted July 11, 2016 Author Report Share Posted July 11, 2016 Yes, the 210 struts (or whatever they are) were already on there and installed by the previous owner. Quote Link to comment
datzenmike Posted July 11, 2016 Report Share Posted July 11, 2016 I assume these are the old 'unknown struts? Take a look and get me the part number, looks like a right hand side. Starts 54300-????? (54301 LH side) Maybe I can identify them. Number stamped up neat top. Measure between the caliper mounting bolt holes. PL510 and later A10 are the same at 76mm. The zx and S110 (200sx) are much larger at 89mm. 1 Quote Link to comment
datsunfreak Posted July 11, 2016 Report Share Posted July 11, 2016 Measure between the caliper mounting bolt holes. PL510 and later A10 are the same at 76mm. The zx and S110 (200sx) are much larger at 89mm. FYI, the PL510 struts do not have the little clip for the brake line pictured here. That is a dead giveaway that they are not from a PL510. 1 Quote Link to comment
datzenmike Posted July 11, 2016 Report Share Posted July 11, 2016 Good to know. Quote Link to comment
510_Chips Posted July 11, 2016 Author Report Share Posted July 11, 2016 Great stuff, thanks all. I'll take a look this evening. Quote Link to comment
510_Chips Posted July 12, 2016 Author Report Share Posted July 12, 2016 OK, so the part number on the strut is 54302 N5050. Under that is reads 6Z02 AMPCO. I have 76mm on center which as you said is what the 510 struts (confirmed the new struts just for kicks) should measure. Quote Link to comment
Laecaon Posted July 12, 2016 Report Share Posted July 12, 2016 But what do the old struts measure? N50 in the part number should indicate 200sx. Quote Link to comment
510_Chips Posted July 12, 2016 Author Report Share Posted July 12, 2016 I guess that was a little unclear. The old stuts (54302 N5050) measure 76mm center, as do the new 510 struts I have. Quote Link to comment
datzenmike Posted July 12, 2016 Report Share Posted July 12, 2016 54302-N5025 is RH '77-'79 S10 (200sx) can't find N5050 54303-N5025 is LH '77-'79 S10 (200sx) Quote Link to comment
510_Chips Posted July 12, 2016 Author Report Share Posted July 12, 2016 Awesome, thanks for your help all - good to know what the spare parts are. Quote Link to comment
Stoffregen Motorsports Posted July 12, 2016 Report Share Posted July 12, 2016 Considering the benefits to using 280ZX struts, I am surprised you decided to stay with the 510 units. 1 Quote Link to comment
510_Chips Posted July 12, 2016 Author Report Share Posted July 12, 2016 Personal preference. As I will be using wilwood brakes, there really are no beneifts to using the 280ZX struts other than them being newer than the 510 struts, and as these have been reconditioned and tested that does not factor. Quote Link to comment
Lockleaf Posted July 12, 2016 Report Share Posted July 12, 2016 Bigger bearings, take more load before giving you issues. 1 Quote Link to comment
datzenmike Posted July 13, 2016 Report Share Posted July 13, 2016 Personal preference. As I will be using wilwood brakes, there really are no beneifts to using the 280ZX struts other than them being newer than the 510 struts, and as these have been reconditioned and tested that does not factor. Not true. I had a growly wheel bearing on my Maxima struts.... went out back and got a set from my old 710 struts. Can't do that with a 510. ZX are also shorter and pull the wheel in 3/4" per side for more clearance. Calipers and rotors are at any NAPA, anywhere. 1 Quote Link to comment
510_Chips Posted July 13, 2016 Author Report Share Posted July 13, 2016 I have 14" Wats, I don't need much clearance and also have camber plates for any fine adjustment required. I can't get replacement Wilwood calipers or rotors at NAPA. I understand why 280ZX struts are a great swap, they are just not what I was looking for. My preference for 510 parts is along the same lines as someone who values a matching numbers car over a car of equal quality but with an engine from another car of the same model. If 280ZX parts were really going to help me out in a huge way then of course I would condsider it. But a bearing is cheap, easy to replace and readily available. I don't drive old cars because it saves me money. Quote Link to comment
datzenmike Posted July 13, 2016 Report Share Posted July 13, 2016 Willwood parts are not 510, Nissan made nor numbers matching. If anything Nissan made 280zx struts are closer. Quote Link to comment
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