aintnobiscuit Posted February 22, 2013 Author Report Share Posted February 22, 2013 And...... after finally finding someone who knows what to do with the flares, i have made a slight mistake... well not a mistake yet per se... i need to see if I cut too much material. I'm doing a write-up on bubble flares when i finish this so someone else doesn't run into the same mistake. It appears the correct way to do the flares is to pie cut the fenders in a radius out from the wheel. Then take each section and bend it outwards to meet the flare. This adds strength and retains the metal in that area to help keep it rigid. Soo... i have not cut much material at all. I don't think it will be a big deal (thank god my cutting wheel was toast last night). I'll take a whole lot of pictures to help make it more clear what needs to be done. Quote Link to comment
Syncro Posted February 22, 2013 Report Share Posted February 22, 2013 Yeah eveything you said about the flares I did similarily on my eclipse, hopefully your still in good shape. Quote Link to comment
jrock4224 Posted February 22, 2013 Report Share Posted February 22, 2013 everyone will tell u a different way to do it ....but the pie cutting and stretching sounds best to me ... but i owned a bubble flair car that i tore them off only to find a disaster of a pair of quarters and have never had the pleasure of installing them ....good work so far... Quote Link to comment
aintnobiscuit Posted February 22, 2013 Author Report Share Posted February 22, 2013 i think it will be fine. I'll make all the mistakes on one side so i can do a really clean one on the other... that way there is a good write up and people will know what to do. Worse comes to worse, i can always get some sheet metal and start over. (although i really don't want to do that) Quote Link to comment
SR20DETdatsun510 Posted February 22, 2013 Report Share Posted February 22, 2013 And...... after finally finding someone who knows what to do with the flares, i have made a slight mistake... well not a mistake yet per se... i need to see if I cut too much material. I'm doing a write-up on bubble flares when i finish this so someone else doesn't run into the same mistake. It appears the correct way to do the flares is to pie cut the fenders in a radius out from the wheel. Then take each section and bend it outwards to meet the flare. This adds strength and retains the metal in that area to help keep it rigid. Soo... i have not cut much material at all. I don't think it will be a big deal (thank god my cutting wheel was toast last night). I'll take a whole lot of pictures to help make it more clear what needs to be done. I just kind of like this shot And...... after finally finding someone who knows what to do with the flares, i have made a slight mistake... well not a mistake yet per se... i need to see if I cut too much material. I'm doing a write-up on bubble flares when i finish this so someone else doesn't run into the same mistake. It appears the correct way to do the flares is to pie cut the fenders in a radius out from the wheel. Then take each section and bend it outwards to meet the flare. This adds strength and retains the metal in that area to help keep it rigid. Soo... i have not cut much material at all. I don't think it will be a big deal (thank god my cutting wheel was toast last night). I'll take a whole lot of pictures to help make it more clear what needs to be done. Just take what is left of the inner fender and pie cut then bend that shit out and weld a bead to each one to join the outer skin where they meet for extra strength too... Quote Link to comment
aintnobiscuit Posted February 22, 2013 Author Report Share Posted February 22, 2013 thats the plan. I knew indy would have some good pictures, so I hit him up and he gave me a ton of detailed info and pictures... super helpful. 1 Quote Link to comment
DISLEXICDIME Posted February 23, 2013 Report Share Posted February 23, 2013 there is a write up in the dime quarterly on bubble flares if i remember right Quote Link to comment
aintnobiscuit Posted February 24, 2013 Author Report Share Posted February 24, 2013 Tried searching dime quarterly... nothing. I've looked all over and haven't found a decent write up anywhere. No good info whatsoever except the recent project by a teenager who tubbed his rear end... but thats further than i want to go with this. Edit: This is the post I was referring to http://community.ratsun.net/topic/41542-jordans-72-tubbed-sr-510/ Quote Link to comment
aintnobiscuit Posted February 24, 2013 Author Report Share Posted February 24, 2013 Commence operation cut the fenders off!!!!!!!!! 1 Quote Link to comment
aintnobiscuit Posted February 25, 2013 Author Report Share Posted February 25, 2013 Is it pretty standard to find 1/2-3/4" of bondo on the rear fenders? LULZ. I haven't had a 510 without bondo before, so now that i'm on a forum, I can ask these kinds of things. Usually it's been my hood that i find the most bondo. Quote Link to comment
skyblue Posted February 25, 2013 Report Share Posted February 25, 2013 yikes! i wouldn't say standard, but definitely not uncommon. Quote Link to comment
aintnobiscuit Posted February 25, 2013 Author Report Share Posted February 25, 2013 I got a lot done, but i got stuck. The wire i have is too thick to weld the body panels and fender wells together, it will just burn the metal up so I have to wait to get the wire until tomorrow. I tried a couple places but they only had .030. Here's my progress today (yay!) Bondo!!! Stuff Mocking it up Checking wheel fitment inside Thats a serious amount of bondo (car is salvaged... i found out why LOL) Started cleaning up around the edges and pie cutting Gappy gap Other gap Mmmm.... pie.... I finally have clearance!!!! The other side went a lot faster since I had an idea of what to do Bending up the panelling to see if I can get a clean arc And then I tried to see if I could find a sweet spot for welding the panels together... Nope... Theres a lot of clearance once you open it up. Well... i'm happy with how it's turning out. Some of the edges aren't perfect and stuff, but shit... i'm going to really take my time making it nice and try to do a really good job. After using the angle grinder with the sanding disc i think i may end up taking off a lot of paint and maybe even trying my hand at painting the car down the road some day. Quote Link to comment
rusty12ver Posted February 25, 2013 Report Share Posted February 25, 2013 Wow that is a lot of bondo, no big deal, looks like its coming along, can't wait to see the finished product. Nice work! Quote Link to comment
aintnobiscuit Posted February 26, 2013 Author Report Share Posted February 26, 2013 Yeah, i was kind of surprised. The lips on both sides are constructed entirely out of bondo. Before the wheel wells (stretching an unknown distance towards the driver's door) is extremely thick. Quote Link to comment
aintnobiscuit Posted March 1, 2013 Author Report Share Posted March 1, 2013 I was able to order some .025 wire... now i just need to pick up a gas cylinder and some gas... but i probably won't do it until after the weekend. Hopefully I'll have the flares done this week though :) Quote Link to comment
831Sunny Posted March 2, 2013 Report Share Posted March 2, 2013 And then I tried to see if I could find a sweet spot for welding the panels together... Nope... God you have no room in your garage at all.. loving the thread you are always working on the car.. go get some bushings tho.. they should be next on your list! Quote Link to comment
aintnobiscuit Posted March 4, 2013 Author Report Share Posted March 4, 2013 Yeah, it's a tiny garage in a townhome, and i'm not supposed to work on my car :D My neighbors are cool about it though and i fix stuff for them sometimes so they never rat me out. Yeah, bushings are on the list too... I almost bought a full set at one point but then i realized a lot i don't need because i've switched suspension components, etc. Once i am done with all the major stuff i'll get bushings. I'm super strapped financially ATM because of some family stuff and it looks like it will be that way for quite a while. I will still be working on the car, fortunately most of the stuff i need to buy has already been done... it's mostly time now. Quote Link to comment
aintnobiscuit Posted March 12, 2013 Author Report Share Posted March 12, 2013 Well, getting a little closer. The wire was finally delivered..... now I just need to pickup gas. Quote Link to comment
aintnobiscuit Posted March 13, 2013 Author Report Share Posted March 13, 2013 And now I have gas :devil: It's time to weld up some fender wells! Hopefully I can get the fender wells welded up tonight or at least this week. I want to dump it and take some pictures!!!!!! Quote Link to comment
Draker Posted March 14, 2013 Report Share Posted March 14, 2013 And now I have gas :devil: It's time to weld up some fender wells! Hopefully I can get the fender wells welded up tonight or at least this week. I want to dump it and take some pictures!!!!!! Are you renting or did you buy the cylinder? Either way, how much was it full? Quote Link to comment
aintnobiscuit Posted March 18, 2013 Author Report Share Posted March 18, 2013 It was $150 for the cylinder and $30 for the gas. With tax it was $198. I have a few more projects and stuff on my GFs car so I figured it was worth it to get the medium bottle. It means less trips to get gas. I finished welding one side and part of the other side. The passenger side front section of the rear wheel well is all smashed in though. I didn't realize it until i started tapping the pie sections out to make them flat/flush with each other... when i got to the front i was like WTF?! That's why all the bondo was there. I guess it was hit on both sides behind the doors. Weird place to get hit on both sides right? I've been super sick because my girlfriend got me sick again, so i didn't get it finished yet. I'm staying home one more day, so I may be able to do a little in between resting. If I can just finish the rest of the welding, grind them down and epoxy on the fenders, i'll be golden. The bondo is easier and i have time after work to do that for sure. I did accidentally leave a few little holes where i burned through the sheet metal. It's really easy if you point the arc wrong to make a hole. I'm just doing my best with the knowledge i may need to come back at it with more experience later and make it nicer. Quote Link to comment
DISLEXICDIME Posted March 18, 2013 Report Share Posted March 18, 2013 keep at it and do what you can. :thumbup: Quote Link to comment
aintnobiscuit Posted March 23, 2013 Author Report Share Posted March 23, 2013 My girlfriend woke up at 5 to go hiking with a couple of her friends, but then decided against it and my mom is sleeping on the couch at our house. My girlfriend didn't want to go back to sleep so she got up and was doing a bunch of stuff in our room, so I was basically up at the same time. I was disappointed because I was really looking forward to sleeping in, but I'm seeing it as a positive thing now. I made some coffee and stepped out into the garage... yay! Going to make some more progress on the fenders right now. I'll upload some pictures as the day progresses. I'm hoping to get them epoxied and bondo'd by lunch time. I am also likely going to pull the thermostat housing or some other piece of metal and drill/tap it to accept my water temperature sensor. That way I feel comfortable driving the old girl, knowing nothing sinister is going on with the under hood temps. w00t. Quote Link to comment
Josh K. Posted March 24, 2013 Report Share Posted March 24, 2013 Looks like my car once I started digging into it :crying: Atleast your just accepting it and moving on. I can't sleep at night with that much bondo. But then again your driving yours and I'm....... :blush: Are those 15x8's? Tire size? -Josh Quote Link to comment
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