SSSEXXX Posted September 9, 2011 Report Share Posted September 9, 2011 Okay, so I have been researching this week for my Datsun 510 build project and trying to do a better job of planning out the build. I have already begun work on my sr20det engine and just wanted to make sure I had a budget, a plan, and got it down on paper. In this process I started thinking about suspension. I had intended on going the 280 strut route + coilovers so that I did not have to weld the perches or find someone to do it. This project is about doing as much of the work as I can myself and learning. That being said, I was beginning to wonder if anyone has taken the OEM struts, hubs, rotots, and brakes from a Nissan 350z or 370z and fitted them on a Datsun 510? The brakes come powder coated, are a nice upgrade in rotor size and I believe they may even be made by Brembo. If I could pick them up for $250 per corner like I think I may be able to, how much fabrication do you think will be involved to get them to mount??? I know the 280 option brings in the stance too, so I would have to know what the newer Z models would do with that too. Just wanted to test the waters. You guys would have a better idea of where to look than I would. I searched, but came up empty. Thank you for your help! Quote Link to comment
Burabuda Posted September 9, 2011 Report Share Posted September 9, 2011 i've done the 350 front calipers + rotors but retain the stock hubs & struts (do you want to go to 5bolt or something?) i got my calipers free, but they are singlepiston from a standard 350 i went that route (not just because they were free) but they still fit inside 15" wheel if you're doing 16"-17" then you could do the twinpiston or brembo Quote Link to comment
cjr198car Posted September 9, 2011 Report Share Posted September 9, 2011 What size wheels do you plan on running? Options on struts and brakes: stock with troy ermish wilwood package (Not sure on size vented) 280zx with zx vented brakes (10 inch vented) 280zx with arizona z car wilwood brakes (12.2 inch vented) 200sx (V6) with z32 brakes (11.75 vented) 280z with toyota pickup 4 piston front brakes (11 inch non vented) I personally have the last option with porterfield r4-s pads. If any of my info is wrong please feel free to correct me. -Colton Quote Link to comment
SSSEXXX Posted September 13, 2011 Author Report Share Posted September 13, 2011 No interest in particular to going 5 lug verus 4 lug... was just thinking about saving a few dollars and getting a high performance brake package with a nice powder coated finish out of the gate. Maybe dreaming a bit, but wanted to test the waters... If I had my choice I would go with nothing bigger than 16x7 and 16x8 Watanabe rs-8s in the 4 lug pattern. After doing a lot of reading, I am pretty sure I will ulimately go the 280zx + coilovers route and then figure brakes out later. 280zx struts are not easy to find in SoCal or at least I certainly do not know where to look. Thank you guys for the input. Quote Link to comment
flatcat19 Posted September 13, 2011 Report Share Posted September 13, 2011 300zx 4 pistons seem more feasible/obtainable given that a budget is in place. Having parts powder coated is cheap. If you're coating enough parts, you can buy your own set-up too. American companies have already been mentioned... But check on what some is the Aussies are doing to. Www.maddat.com www.datsport.com Quote Link to comment
SSSEXXX Posted September 13, 2011 Author Report Share Posted September 13, 2011 I really like Datsport and have heard great things about them, but man their pricing (once you factor in shipping to the states) can get a little bit high. I am legitimately considering their 510 sr20det crossmember because it allows you to use stock s13 motor mounts, which I already have. Quote Link to comment
datsundan Posted September 28, 2011 Report Share Posted September 28, 2011 Hey sssexxx where are you located in so cal? I can get some zx struts for you Quote Link to comment
Bleach Posted September 28, 2011 Report Share Posted September 28, 2011 Big difference from 350Z to 370Z size Quote Link to comment
Shagy Posted September 28, 2011 Report Share Posted September 28, 2011 My GAWD I'd love to have them on my car.... Big difference from 350Z to 370Z size Quote Link to comment
VoidDragon Posted September 28, 2011 Report Share Posted September 28, 2011 Even if going coilovers instead of stock style perches, there its still welding involved. Quote Link to comment
Bleach Posted September 28, 2011 Report Share Posted September 28, 2011 The G37/370Z run 19" wheels stock. I wonder if they require 18's just to clear the brakes! Heavy car, heavy wheels, heavy brakes... You guys really don't need those for a 2300 pounds sedan. The last time I checked, Brembos for the 350Z were running about $1500 for a set used. 350Z guys like them because they are a bolt-on upgrade. You can consider Wilwood fronts and 280ZX rear brakes for less than that. That also keeps you with a 4-lug. Quote Link to comment
Shagy Posted September 28, 2011 Report Share Posted September 28, 2011 Looks like I'm doing a 5lug swap..I'd love to take the OEM touring brakes...but I think I'm getting the Z32 calipers with my set up...I'll be happy. Quote Link to comment
datrod Posted September 29, 2011 Report Share Posted September 29, 2011 280zx struts are not easy to find in SoCal or at least I certainly do not know where to look. Thank you guys for the input. Pick a Part. Should find them in any self pull yard in So Cal. Quote Link to comment
yellowdatsun Posted September 29, 2011 Report Share Posted September 29, 2011 First, why would you want such humongous brakes on the 510? The 280ZX, while not as sexy, have more than enough stopping power for 90% of the guys out there. The Z32 setup, which I have, is already overkill. Anything more is just excess, and probably a waste of money. Also, from an engineering standpoint, it's not as much the caliper that gives better stopping power and control, it's the diameter of the rotor. The larger the rotor, the more leverage and control you have. 1 Quote Link to comment
Bleach Posted September 29, 2011 Report Share Posted September 29, 2011 :blink: Quote Link to comment
SSSEXXX Posted October 1, 2011 Author Report Share Posted October 1, 2011 Hey sssexxx where are you located in so cal? I can get some zx struts for you Irvine sir!!! Let's do this!!! Quote Link to comment
datsundan Posted June 29, 2012 Report Share Posted June 29, 2012 Irvine sir!!! Let's do this!!! I literally just saw your response to mine. I know this post is old but did you ever manage to find some zx struts? If not I can still source some out for you Quote Link to comment
sssr20det510 Posted June 30, 2012 Report Share Posted June 30, 2012 If you want brembos you could always go with the sentra ser brembos they are like 285 each from the dealer Quote Link to comment
datzenmike Posted June 30, 2012 Report Share Posted June 30, 2012 Is there no upper limit to brakes? Will a 6 piston caliper stop any better than a single????? Isn't stopping dependent on vehicle weight, (inertia) speed and tire traction? Quote Link to comment
Laecaon Posted June 30, 2012 Report Share Posted June 30, 2012 Yea... my ZX brakes will lock up no sweat with track tires on. I could understand a bigger rotor to help with brake fade if that is a real issue... Quote Link to comment
fo0manchu Posted June 30, 2012 Report Share Posted June 30, 2012 I am surprised not more people are trying the rx7 4 pots, you can find them in a junkyard and rebuild them or get them for about 50-60 bucks at the auto store. Cheaper than z32's and can use with 11" rotors. Toyota 4 pots are heavy. 1 Quote Link to comment
datsundan Posted June 30, 2012 Report Share Posted June 30, 2012 I actually have a couple sets of the rx7 4 pots lying around. Just need to have some brackets made for them unless someone else on here has already made them.. Quote Link to comment
datzenmike Posted July 1, 2012 Report Share Posted July 1, 2012 On a 2,000 pound car? The stockers are ... adequate. My Maxima brakes (assuming the zx are as good) are superb! And this is on a 710 goon which probably weighs as much as a 510 goon... so 2,300/2,400 lbs. Anything larger would just lock up easier. 1 Quote Link to comment
fo0manchu Posted July 1, 2012 Report Share Posted July 1, 2012 yes, i think zx's are superb! and I agree with you datzenmike. But it's just more fun to put some bigger brakes on there just for the heck of it! Thats assuming one has extra time and some fab skills/ and or extra money. Quote Link to comment
Uber Deaf One Posted July 1, 2012 Report Share Posted July 1, 2012 On a 2,000 pound car? The stockers are ... adequate. My Maxima brakes (assuming the zx are as good) are superb! And this is on a 710 goon which probably weighs as much as a 510 goon... so 2,300/2,400 lbs. Anything larger would just lock up easier. Some people do want to drive their cars more aggressively.... can't go wrong with bigger brakes. My buddy was at Thunderhill yesterday. He has an RX7 with those exact calipers. Running R compound tires and Hawk HP+ pads, he said he could only use like half of his braking power before the tires would lock up. Imagine those calipers in a lighter car... you'd never have brake issues at the track ;) He has an extra set laying around actually.. I think I'm gonna snag those and throw them on my 510 with some custom brackets. Quote Link to comment
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