What you two are saying is that no matter how fucked up your Ratsun forum presence is, you can get away with it because youre a nice guy in person? Then why arent you screaming and making threads when JRock gets a vacation? He bends over backwards for a lot of members, gives away parts if members need it, will come pick you up when you have flats, drove 2 hrs to drop off a valve cover at 3am, etc...
Not a single person is calling Adam a shitty guy. We all know what hes done for the community, but that doesnt give you a right to act like a jackass on the forum repeatedly (and thats saying something because we have a high tolerance to jackassery here).
And yes, hes also the main person standing up for the forum changes and no thats not why hes being called a whiny member. Its how he went about it. He was civil in the begining and then just spiraled out of control. Many people have pointed out his personality shift and how derogatory and whiny all his posts were. Stating your opinion and being a complete idiot are totally different.
He could have gone about it completely different and might have gotten something in return. Eventually though you need to see that obviously nothing here is going to change... no matter how large the voice is. The moderator team has started what changed will be staying and what will be going and thats that. Look at the 70 pages of bitching about it and still... nothing changed. You can argue until youre blue in the face, but if who youre arguing with wont EVER change their position, why argue? More on and deal with it.
I also dont think anyone is perma-banning Banner either. Im sure he will be allowed back, but after he cools off. We need more "in real life" members like him... just not his lately. Give him some time to unwind and maybe the waters will calm down.