Timing chain

[Trod8812]

Boom says that the smaller half moon of the oil pump drive should be facing the front of the motor. The oil pump drive need to go more clockwise?

[Trod8812]

It should line up like this before I install it right?

 

[datzenmike]

Like Hainz said, as long as it works it does not matter.  Rotor must be under one of the plug wires on the cap AND there has to be some adjustment room for setting the advance. Once rotor is under a plug wire that becomes #1 and the rest are 3 4 2 in a counter clockwise direction on the cap.

[Trod8812]

 

 

It lines up in this position so I will call it good

[datzenmike]

Well if you have problems later with timing keep this in mind.

[Trod8812]

 

 

Should the pulley be seated in further than it is?

[Trod8812]

I think it does because it does not quite line up with the water pump pulley but I can’t get it to go back any further

[datzenmike]

Then remove and check the woodruff keys are properly set in place. If one is out of place , well when you tighten to 120 ft lbs, there could be a problem.

[banzai510(hainz)]

I thought their was a dimple on the pump drive not half moon. I cant remember know.

 

you might have to install and re install to get that 1128

[datzenmike]

I can't see why you can't get the 11:28. You sure you're at TDC?

[racerx]

Is been awhile but doesn't the dimple, on the oil pump shaft, line up with an indented arrow. Also I thought the fatter part of the half moon is towards the car or right of you if you look down.

[Trod8812]

I put a picture of the 2 dimples lining up at the top of this page. The half moon is where the distributor sets in

[Stoffregen Motorsports]

It should line up like this before I install it right?

 

The spindle is pretty dirty and I'm not sure I can see the dimple. When you do get the dimples lined up, you still need to guide it up into the cover as straight as possible.

[Trod8812]

Yes the motor is at TDC compression stroke

[Roadster-ka]

I've always installed the dist/oil pump drive separately from the oil pump and used a long skinny screw driver to hold it in position. Then afterwards installing the pump, clocking it to match the drive.

It sounds like his issue is his dist timing plate or pedestal.

[Trod8812]

[Trod8812]

When those line up like that it then looks like this

 

 

[racerx]

Yes the motor is at TDC compression stroke

...u sure its at Tec at compression stroke

[banzai510(hainz)]

I cked my vid and my dimple is different.Its not a half moon. that might be from manf or assemble of shaft.

 

well anyway pull it out move it Counter clock wise and reinstall till its 1128. remeber this rotates abit when installing so could be a tooth off. then where rotor lands is your TDC and adjust the timming plates so it center tighten the timming plate to the dist (underside) then you can adjust from the front cover Tab the rest once running

 

dude this is SIMPLE

[Trod8812]

I adjusted the timing plates as far as they can go and it still will not line up at 11:28

[Trod8812]

The rotor is exactly in between 2 points and there is not enough adjustment on the timing plates to get it centered

[Trod8812]

...u sure its at Tec at compression stroke

 

[Trod8812]

[Trod8812]

Now if I had a distributor that had the driving spindle completely encased as one unit I would just turn the rotor until one matches up and that would be my number 1, so if I just turn the spindle until it will match up it should be fine? What about taking the motor to 12 degrees before top dead center and aligning it that way for an initial timing?

[Stoffregen Motorsports]

I think you need to try again...and again, until you get it right. I'm not going to speculate any more on why it's not working, but just pull it out and move it counter clockwise until you get it right.

 

Someone said to pull the spindle up into the correct location and then install the pump. That's a great way to do it, as long as you can get the slot in the oil pump to match up. If you have a long needle nose vise grip, use it to hold the spindle from the top and that will free up your hands while you adjust the oil pump.

 

Also, I never rely on timing pointers unless I verify TDC with a long screwdriver through a spark plug hole. There are so many ways which the TDC pointers can get screwed up or mix matched with other pulleys that it's just not something I assume to be right. Verify it and then mark it with some paint.