Llittle_Llama Posted March 10, 2008 Author Report Share Posted March 10, 2008 so are gas shocks bad? what do you all recommend? Quote Link to comment
yello620 Posted March 10, 2008 Report Share Posted March 10, 2008 I would save your self some effort and your hand and not mess with the overload spring reinstallation. It should not have a noticable effect on ride height or ride quality until you start to laod some weight into the bed of the truck. I prefer a good gas shock. Monroe or Gabriel shocks work fine. But on a budget the cheapie non-gas stuff is usually better than the wore out stockers, they just dont last very long usually. Jason Quote Link to comment
Llittle_Llama Posted March 10, 2008 Author Report Share Posted March 10, 2008 what about something like this? http://www.fbirides.com/product.asp?idno=8252 Quote Link to comment
yello620 Posted March 10, 2008 Report Share Posted March 10, 2008 That would be fine, but they are not any better than the application specific stuff that you can go to the auto parts store and buy. The rear shocks have an odd mounting with the stud at the bottom. Gas shocks are not designed to be run that way, so make sure that you get ones that can handle that. Again, that problem is solved by buying the proper shocks that were designed for your truck, not a universal shock. Also, there are only two MAJOR shock manufactures in the world. Gabriel and Monroe. Usually these other little brands like DJM are made by one of the two. So you are generally paying some extra markup also. Do you have autozone locally? I dont like them for some stuff, but shocks are fine there. They were on sale this month. Jason Quote Link to comment
Llittle_Llama Posted March 10, 2008 Author Report Share Posted March 10, 2008 looks like im going local :) i'll call around ans see who's the cheapest, then ask for my military discount on top of that, heh. once i bag it, i'll be tossing these right? Quote Link to comment
datzenmike Posted March 10, 2008 Report Share Posted March 10, 2008 I kid you not, one side was lower by 1/2 inch, put this gas a just shocks and measured the height and it was now even. Yes, it's possible I guess if using a gas charged shock. At rest they expand to their full open position. Sometimes you have to compress them to get them on... could lift a vehicle slightly I suppose. Once they wear in they may sag back sure to when worn out. Quote Link to comment
Llittle_Llama Posted March 10, 2008 Author Report Share Posted March 10, 2008 Yes, it's possible I guess if using a gas charged shock. At rest they expand to their full open position. Sometimes you have to compress them to get them on... could lift a vehicle slightly I suppose. Once they wear in they may sag back sure to when worn out. that being said, i wont expect miracles with the replacement on that, but i do expect it to ride better! felt like it was riding on bump stops before i lowered it and it was 8 inches away from the bump stops!!! Quote Link to comment
yello620 Posted March 10, 2008 Report Share Posted March 10, 2008 The other thing that could have been affecting the 1/4" in the rear is uneven adjustment of the front torsion bars. You would not even notice that 1/4" when you have 3" of fender gap, but when you lower the gap gets closer and you start to notice differences. My truck, the rear axle is not completely centered under the bed. its off to one side a little and was not very noticable until i lowered it more. Jason Quote Link to comment
]2eDeYe Posted March 10, 2008 Report Share Posted March 10, 2008 You will still want shocks when you go to bags. The bags become the spring and do nothing to dampen the shock loads your suspension sees in normal driving. Quote Link to comment
Llittle_Llama Posted March 10, 2008 Author Report Share Posted March 10, 2008 well i bought my shocks today....27 bucks each from advanced. they'll be here tomorrow after 2.....cannot wait to put them on. going to go ahead and do the t/ bars here in a few minutes (i bought bombermanland for my wii the other day and i cannot stop playing those damn mini games!) adn then we'll see where we sit...if that doesnt do it, tomorrow will be the shocks, then if it's still like that, the spring re-installation..... Quote Link to comment
Llittle_Llama Posted March 10, 2008 Author Report Share Posted March 10, 2008 Also, there are only two MAJOR shock manufactures in the world. Gabriel and Monroe. Usually these other little brands like DJM are made by one of the two.Jason you forgot about ranchero.... there kinda big and make there own if im not mistaken..... Quote Link to comment
Bleach Posted March 10, 2008 Report Share Posted March 10, 2008 Here is an article on reindexing the front torsion bars http://www.bleachgarage.com/620tech_spn.html Quote Link to comment
Llittle_Llama Posted March 10, 2008 Author Report Share Posted March 10, 2008 damn, thats what i've needed all along! i never saw that on your site... thanks bleach.... Quote Link to comment
Fineline Posted March 10, 2008 Report Share Posted March 10, 2008 You said the drivers side was higher? Sit in it and have someone take a picture. Problem solved! Quote Link to comment
Bleach Posted March 10, 2008 Report Share Posted March 10, 2008 damn, thats what i've needed all along! i never saw that on your site... thanks bleach.... it would seem that article was created today.. :D had that in my archives but just never posted. (I have a lot of other info as well) Quote Link to comment
]2eDeYe Posted March 10, 2008 Report Share Posted March 10, 2008 That would come in handy from time to time if you would update your site :D I'm still trying to find pic's from when you flipped the a-arms.... :P Quote Link to comment
Llittle_Llama Posted March 10, 2008 Author Report Share Posted March 10, 2008 lol, you shoulda posted that a long time ago! what other shit you got!?! and do i need those rubber bots, one is missing, and the other fell into ash as soon as i touched it...... Quote Link to comment
Bleach Posted March 10, 2008 Report Share Posted March 10, 2008 Remember, not enough clearance with 15 inch wheels. That shouldn't be a problem for you. oh, and this is on disc brakes. Quote Link to comment
Bleach Posted March 10, 2008 Report Share Posted March 10, 2008 I've got all kinds of good stuff stashed away! The real way to bolt-on disc brakes from factory Datsun parts, how to create a 250hp L-series engine for less than $100, HID headlight swaps from eBay that are good quality and work great, and so much more! :lol: Quote Link to comment
Llittle_Llama Posted March 10, 2008 Author Report Share Posted March 10, 2008 what year pinto? im going to the parts store in a few once i get the t/bars done! Quote Link to comment
Llittle_Llama Posted March 10, 2008 Author Report Share Posted March 10, 2008 make like my prom date and give it up bitch!!!! i already have discs so give up the goods!!! Quote Link to comment
Bleach Posted March 10, 2008 Report Share Posted March 10, 2008 any year Pinto. They were only made for a short while. I think I used 1977-78 shocks Quote Link to comment
]2eDeYe Posted March 10, 2008 Report Share Posted March 10, 2008 I've got all kinds of good stuff stashed away!The real way to bolt-on disc brakes from factory Datsun parts, how to create a 250hp L-series engine for less than $100, HID headlight swaps from eBay that are good quality and work great, and so much more! :lol: :lol: Thanks the a-arm stuff is for another vehicle entirely, I just wanted to show what I meant ;) Quote Link to comment
Llittle_Llama Posted March 10, 2008 Author Report Share Posted March 10, 2008 i pulled them and re indexed them, only problem is they don't line up! it seems like there is a spline difference between the 2....i effed with it for a good 30 minutes and gave up......it's still up on jack stands, and I'll finish in the morning after some help from you all!!! what do i need to do? and when i re-index them, i need them as far up as i can put them, or just even with the cross member? and do I do the adjustment bolts tight, or do i put them mid way adn let them tighten up as i lower the truck? Quote Link to comment
datsunfreak Posted March 11, 2008 Report Share Posted March 11, 2008 Also, there are only two MAJOR shock manufactures in the world. Gabriel and Monroe. So you're saying one of those two makes Koni, Tein, Apex'i, and Bilstein? I don't think so... Or is the key word "major"? Quote Link to comment
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