fisch Posted February 23, 2011 Report Share Posted February 23, 2011 I found a set of interesting wheels I am thinking about for my 510. They are Western Wheels, kinda pana knockoffs but a bit different. And were on a Z car so I know the rims should fit the dime, right? (14X7- thinks 0 offset.) But the tire size has me confused. I like the vintage white letter Dunlop GT qualifiers almost as much as the wheel! Love the script. Will be sick with the bit of rake I like a dime to have. But the owner says they are DR60 (front) and FR60 (rear). :confused: What does that translate to? Could a Z take a taller tire that a 510? Or should it be pretty close fit. I can't find a ref for that tire size anywhere. Google failed me and Coker tire failed me too. Do you guys have any idea? Just want to know if the rubber will fit the 510 or if I'd need to factor new rubber into my budget. He says two tires are good and 2 are fair. Shame because I don't think you can get white-letter gt qualifiers anymore. Quote Link to comment
Radim Posted February 23, 2011 Report Share Posted February 23, 2011 Enkei made some just like these. Quote Link to comment
ggzilla Posted February 23, 2011 Report Share Posted February 23, 2011 Thoose sizes were last used in the 80s. not sure I'd want to buy the tires, but the wheels are cool F is equivalent to 185 if I remember correctly Quote Link to comment
INDY510 Posted February 23, 2011 Report Share Posted February 23, 2011 . You will need 280zx front struts to fit a zero offset on the front ......... look at the 280zx six spokes you have now.... . I think they are 14x6 +10 and they have good tires that will fit the western wheels .......... but the 280zx wheels look good when fully polished up Quote Link to comment
Guest kamakazi620 Posted February 23, 2011 Report Share Posted February 23, 2011 I found a set of interesting wheels I am thinking about for my 510. They are Western Wheels, kinda pana knockoffs but a bit different. And were on a Z car so I know the rims should fit the dime, right? (14X7- thinks 0 offset.) But the tire size has me confused. I like the vintage white letter Dunlop GT qualifiers almost as much as the wheel! Love the script. Will be sick with the bit of rake I like a dime to have. But the owner says they are DR60 (front) and FR60 (rear). :confused: What does that translate to? Could a Z take a taller tire that a 510? Or should it be pretty close fit. I can't find a ref for that tire size anywhere. Google failed me and Coker tire failed me too. Do you guys have any idea? Just want to know if the rubber will fit the 510 or if I'd need to factor new rubber into my budget. He says two tires are good and 2 are fair. Shame because I don't think you can get white-letter gt qualifiers anymore. Dr and fr are bais plys if i remember right Quote Link to comment
Edz280zx Posted February 23, 2011 Report Share Posted February 23, 2011 I believe roughly "translated" it would be 185/60r14's on the front and 205/60r14's for the rear Quote Link to comment
INDY510 Posted February 23, 2011 Report Share Posted February 23, 2011 . Those look more like a 205/75/14's ......... or 205/70/14 .......... which would be huge on a 510,,, and you'd need flares with a zero offset Quote Link to comment
Edz280zx Posted February 23, 2011 Report Share Posted February 23, 2011 http://www.turbinecar.com/tires.htm Quote Link to comment
hobbes_the_cat Posted February 23, 2011 Report Share Posted February 23, 2011 FYI. I have run 3 different old tires like that that looked in ok shape but the cords failed within about 100 miles and got dangerous bulges under the tread, I was all over the road! I wouldn't run those old tires if i was you... By the way i'm running 14x7 -0 on my stock 510 but i have to camber the backs out, and the fronts stick out a little. i think my 280zx struts should fix that tho. Quote Link to comment
Skib Posted February 23, 2011 Report Share Posted February 23, 2011 lol those tires are gonna hold about as good as a bunch of blown up freezer bags taped to the outside of the rim :lol: rims are rad tho, should pick em up and get some new rubber on em :cool: Quote Link to comment
INDY510 Posted February 23, 2011 Report Share Posted February 23, 2011 lol those tires are gonna hold about as good as a bunch of blown up freezer bags taped to the outside of the rim :lol: I don't know ..... :huh: ...... .. if he cuts off half the spokes,, ,, the rims might not last as long as the tires... (or freezer bags) ..... :lol: storage bags would just be a joke ......... :lol: Quote Link to comment
datzenmike Posted February 23, 2011 Report Share Posted February 23, 2011 F = 195 D = 185 or a hair under. Quote Link to comment
Stupid_fast Posted February 23, 2011 Report Share Posted February 23, 2011 Enkei made some just like these. They did, but 8 spoke. Enkei 80's, 13x5.5 100x4 bolt. I got em with my car, the PO told me he got them from a guy who said they where on a Z car, yeah right. Sorry to threadjack... Quote Link to comment
fisch Posted February 23, 2011 Author Report Share Posted February 23, 2011 Damn you dudes are on the ball! Thanks for the avalanche of great replies!! Currently I am running Maxima struts with vented disc brakes on the front. With 185/60 rubber on the front, which appears to be the size of these dunlops. But I have 195/70 on the back, which is actually taller than the translation of 205/60 these rims have. And even if they are 205/70, that is only a 1/4 more or so all around. So the tires would fit. The question is would the rims fit or be out too far? Are maxima struts similar in this arena to 280zx front struts? EDIT- I just went to the garage and may have answered my own question. The rears all ready tuck. I can't fit my knuckles between the tire and the fender as is, that is about 1/2 inch. If the current z 6-spokes are 14X6 +10, and I only have 1/2 with those, these rear dunlops would be a bit too hellaflush I think! (They'd stick out a bit more than the 1/2 inch I have.):blink: My fenders are already lip rolled as is. Plus on the front, the Z 6 spokes are flush with the edge of the fender. So these western's would stick out beyond the side of the car. Bottom line, I'd have the flare the car. (Or get some tires with stretch.) Which may happen eventually. But I want to drive it a while before I start cutting. I wouldn't have guessed 14X7 +0 would be an issue! I thought the rims were the least of my worries so I am glad I asked. Once again Ratsun rocks! Quote Link to comment
fisch Posted February 23, 2011 Author Report Share Posted February 23, 2011 They did, but 8 spoke. Enkei 80's, 13x5.5 100x4 bolt. I got em with my car, the PO told me he got them from a guy who said they where on a Z car, yeah right. Sorry to threadjack... Close, but these Western's have an extra pizza crust circle on the center part. Don't know if I've seen another rim with that? But I admittedly am new to the world of 4X114.3. Quote Link to comment
INDY510 Posted February 23, 2011 Report Share Posted February 23, 2011 . Honestly your 510 is stanced perfectly right now ....... :D .......... 280zx six spokes always look great on 510s.. .. Why not just polish them??? ...... paint stripper/elbow grease ...... .and mother's aluminum polish+steel wool ...... I saw you started on one back wheel Quote Link to comment
INDY510 Posted February 23, 2011 Report Share Posted February 23, 2011 . or maybe you could make them 280zx 4 spokes ........ :lol: Quote Link to comment
68Datsun510 Posted February 23, 2011 Report Share Posted February 23, 2011 I'd be afraid of hitting a pebble with those wheels :P Quote Link to comment
Laecaon Posted February 23, 2011 Report Share Posted February 23, 2011 The westerns look like 10 spoke versions of minilites Quote Link to comment
INDY510 Posted February 23, 2011 Report Share Posted February 23, 2011 . I think Fisch could make them 8 spokes .......... . :lol: Quote Link to comment
ggzilla Posted February 23, 2011 Report Share Posted February 23, 2011 4X114.3 It's actually 4 x 4.5", from the british measurements. It's not metric spec, but you can convert inches to mm if you want, as the French do... Quote Link to comment
fisch Posted February 23, 2011 Author Report Share Posted February 23, 2011 You're killin me Indy! Great thoughts all around guys. I like the 6-spokes for sure, buuuuuut, always chasing that thing that is a bit more unusual. Part of my plan would have been to trade the guy my 6-spokes (if he were willing) toward the Western Wheels. But then I'd be wheelless if the western's didn't work or needed the car flared before they would work well. So for the moment I will keep pressing on with the 6-spokes, cleaning and painting! Quote Link to comment
Stfwells Posted February 24, 2011 Report Share Posted February 24, 2011 There was a guy around here on CL with Westerns like those, who was trying to pass them off as Panas. He wanted like 350 for the set without tires. I didn't know what they were at the time, but I knew they weren't Pana. I do now! God Bless Ratsun, everyday is a learning experience around here. :lol: Quote Link to comment
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