mklotz70 Posted April 8, 2013 Author Report Share Posted April 8, 2013 I have not, yet. When someone pays for a set, I'll use that money to have several sets of brackets cut. I have the bearing spacers on hand already. Quote Link to comment
Lobo Posted April 10, 2013 Report Share Posted April 10, 2013 what is the cost for a set now adays Quote Link to comment
mklotz70 Posted April 11, 2013 Author Report Share Posted April 11, 2013 Same...$285(shipped in US). The lead time is just longer since I'll order the laser cut parts after an order is placed. The bearing spacer is the same as the roadster kit and I have those on hand right now. I was going to raise the price for one offs, but since I don't have to machine the spacer, it's not that big of a deal to weld up the brackets since I have the jig built. Quote Link to comment
freaky510 Posted April 11, 2013 Report Share Posted April 11, 2013 I still have some plates and tabs just need the spacers for the tabs. Quote Link to comment
mklotz70 Posted April 11, 2013 Author Report Share Posted April 11, 2013 Gotta pic of them? There weren't any spacers between the tabs and plates. You may simply need to weld them together. Quote Link to comment
freaky510 Posted April 19, 2013 Report Share Posted April 19, 2013 Posted a pic of the bracket I have on Ratsun fb much easier when mobile Quote Link to comment
mklotz70 Posted April 19, 2013 Author Report Share Posted April 19, 2013 Easier for you maybe.......I can't find it. Quote Link to comment
mklotz70 Posted April 19, 2013 Author Report Share Posted April 19, 2013 Got a second fb notice......pic was at the end of that link. Dang, that was some time ago. I'm pretty sure that was a water jet set. There was another set of ears with them and a set of 4 small discs for bracket spacers that I machined manually. They will work, but it puts the clearance to the tierod nut really close. I would think that they'd probably work without the bracket spacers(small discs), but you'd need the bearing spacers. I'm not positive about the ears clearing on those without the discs. I may be ordering some more brackets from the laser cutter in the next week or so. I've got several people interested and I've been waiting for at least one of them to place an order so I can use that money for the brackets. I may keep waiting. If no one wants them bad enough to order a set, I'm afraid they still won't order after I lay the money out....been there done that......tired of it. If I decide not to do any more, I'll post the CAD art on my site. Quote Link to comment
freaky510 Posted April 19, 2013 Report Share Posted April 19, 2013 Yes these are the water jet ones. Yes I have 2 different tabs. And I also recall the clearance issues. Well darn I was hoping to help out. Quote Link to comment
mklotz70 Posted April 19, 2013 Author Report Share Posted April 19, 2013 yep...sorry. I think at some point there was hope that those could be salvaged/modified to work. They might if they're used with the bearing spacer. I just need someone to buy a set so I can submit the order to have more cut. I already have the bearing spacers. Quote Link to comment
mklotz70 Posted May 31, 2013 Author Report Share Posted May 31, 2013 I kinda feel like I've hogged the 3D Modeling thread, so I think I'll just put this here for the enjoyment of the 411 owners. I've been wanting to redo the bracket design for awhile. The old one needed a couple of tweaks anyway. I'm also changing up the truck design too. In the truck design, I'm trying to switch to a plug welded tab to make the welding way easier. I figured I might as well try to design this bracket to use the same tab. Anyway......I saved some images along the way as I was designing....thought I'd share. These first ones are a quick model of the spindle.....at these the parts of the spindle that I needed to reference. I also took some vid of how I measured the spindle....but I haven't uploaded it yet. So I started with a bigger flat piece than needed and did a bit of assembly with it, the tabs and the spindle. I was able to check the clearance of the tab to the spindle from within CAD. Trying to make the bracket a bit more compact than the original. I won't explain each step, they're just a couple of sample shots as I was going along. Oh....I put the holes in the main plate for easy referencing while designing, but they will either have to be eliminated in the final design, or I'll have to put a 1/4" tall plug in the center, then weld both sides. If there's no hole in the main plate, I can just plug weld from the tab side. From the research I've done, the 3/4" hole is the right size for 3/8" plate........but I welcome other opinions on this before I actually have them cut. Quote Link to comment
mklotz70 Posted May 31, 2013 Author Report Share Posted May 31, 2013 I kinda went a bit more "organic" on this one since the 411 is so curvy. The laser cutter doesn't care if it's a curve or straight line, so why not :) Quote Link to comment
]2eDeYe Posted May 31, 2013 Report Share Posted May 31, 2013 Those look great. :thumbup: Quote Link to comment
mklotz70 Posted May 31, 2013 Author Report Share Posted May 31, 2013 Thanks! So much nicer to do the grunt work in CAD first!! :) Quote Link to comment
mklotz70 Posted June 2, 2013 Author Report Share Posted June 2, 2013 Here's the vid I took while taking the measurements on the mill. Quote Link to comment
mklotz70 Posted May 27, 2014 Author Report Share Posted May 27, 2014 Believe it or not.....there's an update! 1 Quote Link to comment
Swedishcadillac Posted May 27, 2014 Report Share Posted May 27, 2014 Thanks Bluehands! I ordered my rotors and calipers last night. I was going to take hub and rotor to local machine shop and see what they thought would be the easiest fix... Not planning on putting thousand of miles on her and burning through rotors fast... But if they can machine hub I see the ease of fitting stock rotors in the future. Quote Link to comment
mklotz70 Posted May 28, 2014 Author Report Share Posted May 28, 2014 You'll be hard pressed to wear the rotors out in the next 10 years with moderate driving. I talked to Doug(wagon it was designed for) after a year or more and he said he couldn't see any wear......and he was driving the heck out of it.....trips to Canada and back! Always better to modify the hard part if possible. It's not that convenient to do the hubs since most guys can't find a shop to do it. I'm going to borrow a hub and look at the rotor/hub fit again......but that won't be until the weekend. I think the hub I have here is actually a 310 drum hub. Quote Link to comment
Swedishcadillac Posted May 30, 2014 Report Share Posted May 30, 2014 Wow! Exciting progress... I haven't found hardly any aftermarket parts for the 410/411, and am glad you've created this for one of the biggest weak points (weak drums) That jig looks very accurate, can't wait to buy and install mines! Quote Link to comment
mklotz70 Posted May 30, 2014 Author Report Share Posted May 30, 2014 Thanks! They're getting there. I've got hardware on hand for a few kits. Guess I'll have to look and see what I need for the rest of them. Once all of the brackets in the shop are finished, I'll send them to the plater for the black zinc. Any that get ordered/shipped prior to that will be sandblasted. Hopefully, this weekend will allow for some good progress! Quote Link to comment
marky510 Posted June 4, 2014 Report Share Posted June 4, 2014 Hey Mike, Just a quick question. Do you know if these can be used with the 312? Thanks, Mark Quote Link to comment
mklotz70 Posted June 5, 2014 Author Report Share Posted June 5, 2014 Sorry....no clue. Do you have any pics of the 312 front end? Quote Link to comment
marky510 Posted June 5, 2014 Report Share Posted June 5, 2014 I'll be getting it up in the air today or tomorrow, so i'll get some pics of everything. Quote Link to comment
Swedishcadillac Posted June 5, 2014 Report Share Posted June 5, 2014 I'm contemplating making a rear disc bracket for my 410. It will be like the Beebani truck bracket, but instead of using Isuzu 6-hole rotors and calipers, I want to use 1985 mazda RX-7 rotors and calipers. Does anyone know of any problems with this setup? Besides having to machine hub/rotor and being creative with parking brake linkage.. Quote Link to comment
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