oukippy Posted February 10, 2019 Report Share Posted February 10, 2019 Hello, I think I've found why my turn signals are not working. My hazard switch is broken as you can see on the following pictures. I think I've read somewher on ratsun that the turn signal can't work without the hazard switch. Could someone confirm it ? Obviously I need to replace the switch. Any good info in order to buy the good one (I think the OEM part number is 25596-B5500 as my car was produced in 11/76) ? Thank you ! oukippy 1 Quote Link to comment
oukippy Posted February 10, 2019 Author Report Share Posted February 10, 2019 subsidiary question: the wipper button is missing a ring and it's tricky to push it without it because the whole switch is moving : First question, is it possible to remove the black knob to try to put a simple metal ring? Second question : is it possible to find the original ring and is it the same as the one for the headlights ? Thanks! 1 Quote Link to comment
datzenmike Posted February 10, 2019 Report Share Posted February 10, 2019 Use a pair of needle nose pliers and grip the stem as close to the dash as you can and hold it tight. Push in on the knob and twist to release it. Also works for the light switch. The securing nuts are likely the same. 1 1 Quote Link to comment
datzenmike Posted February 10, 2019 Report Share Posted February 10, 2019 The 4 way connects ALL the bulbs together where the turn must separate left from right. When the 4 way is in the OFF position, the turn signals flasher is connected to it's fuse. When in the ON position the turn flasher is disconnected and the left and right bulbs all joined together to the 4 way flasher unit. If you don't have another 4 way switch handy just now, you can just mechanically connect the turn signals so you can use them.... but the 4 ways won't work. You can fix them later. In the picture above, join the Green wires together on the lower section. The upper wire bundle should be wrapped in electrical tape for now. 1 Quote Link to comment
oukippy Posted February 10, 2019 Author Report Share Posted February 10, 2019 32 minutes ago, datzenmike said: The 4 way connects ALL the bulbs together where the turn must separate left from right. When the 4 way is in the OFF position, the turn signals flasher is connected to it's fuse. When in the ON position the turn flasher is disconnected and the left and right bulbs all joined together to the 4 way flasher unit. If you don't have another 4 way switch handy just now, you can just mechanically connect the turn signals so you can use them.... but the 4 ways won't work. You can fix them later. In the picture above, join the Green wires together on the lower section. The upper wire bundle should be wrapped in electrical tape for now. Ok, I'll try to summarize it in my own words in order to see if I understood correctly: 1. I buy a brand new switch because I'll probably need it someday, at least for the technical inspection i need the car to pass for the car registration in France. 2. I wrap the upper wires in electrical tape as it is on the picture, no cut needed (upper wires are defined by their position on the picture). 3. I cut the 2 lower green wires and join them in order to have my turn signals working. 4. I plug the 2 connectors at the other end of the cable. After that, I should be able to use the turn signals for left or right turns. Of course 4 way will be impossible to use as there will be no knob for that (?) and technically because the 4 way flasher unit will never be connected. Did I catch it correctly ? Additional question because I didn't see them working at all : turn signals are working only when the ignition key is on start or do I need to completely start the engine ? (it seems to me it's a silly question but I do my best! ) 1 Quote Link to comment
datzenmike Posted February 10, 2019 Report Share Posted February 10, 2019 That should work. You will need the 4 ways for your inspection, but this will get you closer to driving it safely. 1 1 Quote Link to comment
oukippy Posted February 10, 2019 Author Report Share Posted February 10, 2019 I took a closer look and I have 3 wires. I connect the 3 together ? 1 Quote Link to comment
datzenmike Posted February 10, 2019 Report Share Posted February 10, 2019 Sorry I just have the schematic. It shows the Green wire connects to the other Green wire. The internal placement of the switch contacts may be complicated. Find the two solid Green wires and connect them and that should do it. Looks like there is one on each of those boards. Turn your turn signal on and touch the two green wires together, and the flashing turn should tell you that it's working. 1 Quote Link to comment
oukippy Posted February 12, 2019 Author Report Share Posted February 12, 2019 I've posted a classified because I'm looking after a "new" hazard switch for my 77 620. I saw one on craigslist but I can't access to the contact email because I'm not in the USA. Could someone give it to me ? The ad is here : https://seattle.craigslist.org/skc/pts/d/datsun-620-oem-parts/6800938539.html 1 Quote Link to comment
Crashtd420 Posted February 12, 2019 Report Share Posted February 12, 2019 c2479d652cf23a09a84cc8fb45220a48@sale.craigslist.org That's what comes up if I click on it... 1 1 Quote Link to comment
Crashtd420 Posted February 12, 2019 Report Share Posted February 12, 2019 There is one on ebay too... https://rover.ebay.com/rover/0/0/0?mpre=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.ebay.com%2Fulk%2Fitm%2F263566305332 1 Quote Link to comment
oukippy Posted February 12, 2019 Author Report Share Posted February 12, 2019 1 hour ago, Crashtd420 said: There is one on ebay too... https://rover.ebay.com/rover/0/0/0?mpre=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.ebay.com%2Fulk%2Fitm%2F263566305332 Yes, I saw it. Shipping cost is very expensive (more than the switch itself). It will probably be my second option. 1 Quote Link to comment
Crashtd420 Posted February 12, 2019 Report Share Posted February 12, 2019 1 hour ago, oukippy said: Yes, I saw it. Shipping cost is very expensive (more than the switch itself). It will probably be my second option. Ya I remember you have that shipping issue.... I've paid like that for somethings before.... I factor it into the cost... when it's the only one you can find and it's what you need you pay.... and then usually find 2 more for half the price a week later...... 1 Quote Link to comment
datzenmike Posted February 12, 2019 Report Share Posted February 12, 2019 just wait 2 more weeks! ? 1 Quote Link to comment
Charlie69 Posted February 16, 2019 Report Share Posted February 16, 2019 oukippy I will look this weekend to see if I have any of the 620 4 way flasher switches. If I do all I will need is an address to ship it to you. I will let you know by Sunday evening if I have one. 1 Quote Link to comment
oukippy Posted February 17, 2019 Author Report Share Posted February 17, 2019 On 2/16/2019 at 11:43 AM, Charlie69 said: oukippy I will look this weekend to see if I have any of the 620 4 way flasher switches. If I do all I will need is an address to ship it to you. I will let you know by Sunday evening if I have one. Thank you very much Charlie69! I'm trying to repair mine with a friend's help but I'm not sure it will be enough. I'm waiting for earing from you !!! 1 Quote Link to comment
Charlie69 Posted February 18, 2019 Report Share Posted February 18, 2019 Still looking I will let you lnow if I find one. I had several but not sure where they would be. Quote Link to comment
oukippy Posted February 21, 2019 Author Report Share Posted February 21, 2019 Hi! Very good news (at least for me) ! We have repaired my hazard switch and it's fully fonctional ! We did it Rastun style as you can see on the pictures !!! Quote Link to comment
datzenmike Posted February 21, 2019 Report Share Posted February 21, 2019 Welcome to classic car ownership. Some things are just impossible to find. Or expense not justified. For everything else you just have to fix or make your own or substitute something else. Sometimes you can locate one later. 2 Quote Link to comment
Crashtd420 Posted February 21, 2019 Report Share Posted February 21, 2019 41 minutes ago, datzenmike said: Welcome to classic car ownership. Some things are just impossible to find. Or expense not justified. For everything else you just have to fix or make your own or substitute something else. Sometimes you can locate one later. Also what's the worse your gonna do ... "fix it".... it was already broken.... Nice job.... Quote Link to comment
Derek 620 Posted March 9 Report Share Posted March 9 Hello. The photos on this post aren’t visible. Could you show me or tell me what to do with the green wires? Quote Link to comment
datzenmike Posted March 10 Report Share Posted March 10 The two solid green wires only? Quote Link to comment
EDM620 Posted March 10 Report Share Posted March 10 In need of a switch? I'll check my spares Quote Link to comment
Derek 620 Posted March 10 Report Share Posted March 10 14 hours ago, datzenmike said: The two solid green wires only? My hazard switch is broken. I wanted to know what to do to get my turn signals working for now Quote Link to comment
EDM620 Posted March 10 Report Share Posted March 10 This is what the switch and wiring should look like. 3 green wires Quote Link to comment
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