ka-datsun Posted November 18, 2011 Report Share Posted November 18, 2011 I am swapping a 1994 ka24de into my 1980 datsun b310. i cant find plans on the motor mounts or tranny mounts. does anyone know? and drivline length but i can take measurements after its in. im just lookin for tips and helpful advice. Quote Link to comment
bananahamuck Posted November 18, 2011 Report Share Posted November 18, 2011 I have no idea.......but if you use google just type what your thinking for your project, and put Ratsun at the end you`ll be amazed at what you find...And open yer wallet cuz there`s gonna be some spending going on all up in here.. Like.. http://community.ratsun.net/topic/27666-burleighs-ka-210-sedan-build/ and this from 1200.com http://datsun1200.com/modules/mediawiki/index.php?title=KA_Engine_Swap Quote Link to comment
Laecaon Posted November 18, 2011 Report Share Posted November 18, 2011 and this one... http://community.ratsun.net/topic/32275-ka24de-210/ Quote Link to comment
ggzilla Posted November 18, 2011 Report Share Posted November 18, 2011 If you use the right transmission you can use the stock B310(210) automatic driveshaft. See Datsun1200.com KA Engine Swap for details. It also has information on engine mount brackets. Unfortunately no one has shared details about the mount dimensions/directions. Quote Link to comment
ka-datsun Posted November 18, 2011 Author Report Share Posted November 18, 2011 im getting the drivline fabricated and balanced by a shop. and honestly, it wont be that much money. im getting it wired for free and my my buddy and i are doing the mounts. Quote Link to comment
ka-datsun Posted November 18, 2011 Author Report Share Posted November 18, 2011 i think the rear end isnt gonna hold up though.. we will see Quote Link to comment
80datson Posted November 19, 2011 Report Share Posted November 19, 2011 i think the rear end isnt gonna hold up though.. we will see Get a h165 in the back and you will have more fun :cool: Quote Link to comment
ka-datsun Posted November 19, 2011 Author Report Share Posted November 19, 2011 how hard would it be to fab that in? and whats the lug pattern? Quote Link to comment
datzenmike Posted November 19, 2011 Report Share Posted November 19, 2011 Get a h165 in the back and you will have more fun :cool: Someone on here slipped the rear end from an '82-'83 200sx into a 210. The 200sx used an H-165 up until the Z22 motor in '82 when they swapped in the H-190. This would be the same rear end used in trucks and Maxima wagons and easily supports 185 ft lbs of torque. The late S110 (200sx) rear is also coil and link and fit right in. It also has disc brakes. Quote Link to comment
ggzilla Posted November 19, 2011 Report Share Posted November 19, 2011 Nissan only fit the R180 and H190 behind KA24s, didn't they? So the H165 won't be guaranteed durable behind the middling H165 (6.5" ring gear). The Datsun A10 is the same as the B310, except has the H165 instead of H150. That would be the easiest to swap. Quote Link to comment
Duke_CityR Posted November 19, 2011 Report Share Posted November 19, 2011 I still have to do some more research but my buddy and I have been doing a comparison between his 86 corolla and my 210. If you are up for some fabrication I think it wouldn't be too difficult to put in a rear end from an 86 corolla. The lug pattern is identical and the overall length is about the same. I'm thinking you would just need to transfer over the spring seats and 4 link mounts, then have a custom driveshaft made. The idea behind this is that there are a lot more aftermarket options for LSDs with a corolla rear end over a datsun one. Has anyone else ever looked more into this? I have a KA24 that I want to swap into my 79 210 and I am trying to get a good idea of what i'm getting myself into before taking out a great running A14. Quote Link to comment
ggzilla Posted November 19, 2011 Report Share Posted November 19, 2011 Little Jason on here has fitted a Corolla rear axle assembly to his Datsun B110. Quote Link to comment
Laecaon Posted November 19, 2011 Report Share Posted November 19, 2011 I have just heard that the AE86 diffs may not hold the power of a KA... Well a stock KA single cam it should. Quote Link to comment
ggzilla Posted November 20, 2011 Report Share Posted November 20, 2011 There is only 8 ft-lb difference between SOHC and DOHC KA24. Quote Link to comment
Laecaon Posted November 20, 2011 Report Share Posted November 20, 2011 Ok then maybe not... The 4AGE only puts out like 110 ft-lbs in the AE86. That is about 40 less than the Single cam. I wonder how it would hold up. I wonder how high the AE86 crowd take their engines and not have issues with the diff. Quote Link to comment
datzenmike Posted November 20, 2011 Report Share Posted November 20, 2011 Holy fuck... '82-'83 200sx has an H-190, coil and 4 link, rear disc brakes and fits. Someone here did this swap.. it fits. H-190 is almost 7.5" good for 185+ ft lbs torque. Blow it up and there are lots of 521, 620, 720 trucks, 510, 610, Maxima goons with a wide variety of cheap replacements and ratios. Can't be any simpler, plus made by Nissan. The '81-'82 200sx was the same except is H-165. Quote Link to comment
Laecaon Posted November 20, 2011 Report Share Posted November 20, 2011 Still have to find one for parts. I dont think I have ever seen one... Quote Link to comment
RedBanner Posted November 20, 2011 Report Share Posted November 20, 2011 Hey mike, ive heard that a 200sx rearend would fit.... What do you think.? Quote Link to comment
Duke_CityR Posted November 20, 2011 Report Share Posted November 20, 2011 Thanks for the clarity datzenmike i knew the 200sx rear ends were better and they changed them over the years but I wasn't to clear on which rear ends they were. My only question is, how likely is it that I am going to be able to find an LSD for an H-165 or H-190. As far as the corolla rear end holding the power of a KA, that's no problem. My buddy has a built KA24 that he put in his 86 corolla, Dyno'd at about 180ft/lbs to the wheels, and it holds up the power all day. He also has a KAAZ LSD in it that works great. I personally love simple, so if I can drop in an H-190 and find an LSD I would be extremely happy. Quote Link to comment
ggzilla Posted November 20, 2011 Report Share Posted November 20, 2011 You just need money to get the LSD. Buy one now. Nismo 2011 catalog list the H190 LSD. H165 can use the TRD LSD with small modifications. If I was doing the fabrication/modification I'd just get a cheap junkyard rear axle with LSD. H165 or Toyoda Corolla diff will probaly last just fine if you aren't doing burnouts. Quote Link to comment
datzenmike Posted November 20, 2011 Report Share Posted November 20, 2011 If you have to have LSD then the H165/190 is maybe not the way to go. Quote Link to comment
ka-datsun Posted November 20, 2011 Author Report Share Posted November 20, 2011 its a dohc ka with cams. port and polished head, header, light weight flywheel stage 2 clutch. i have been told my rear end will hold, it welded also. we will see how it goes. should be done in a couple weeeks Quote Link to comment
80datson Posted February 25, 2012 Report Share Posted February 25, 2012 Dead end???.. all talk! Quote Link to comment
datsunfreak Posted February 26, 2012 Report Share Posted February 26, 2012 Dead end???.. all talk! He jinxed himself by saying this: should be done in a couple weeeks :P Quote Link to comment
80datson Posted February 27, 2012 Report Share Posted February 27, 2012 im getting the drivline fabricated and balanced by a shop. and honestly, it wont be that much money. im getting it wired for free and my my buddy and i are doing the mounts. Or this lol :P Quote Link to comment
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