flatcat19 Posted May 18, 2011 Report Share Posted May 18, 2011 2eDeYe' date='18 May 2011 - 08:37 AM' timestamp='1305733064' post='478171']Stop trying to talk him out of the big motor....I want to seee it in that engine bay :D I would love to see the motor swapped in there as well. I have no doubt that it will fit. My concern is powertrain management. With not only being a CAN-BUS system, you have to think above that. NATS, BCM, shifters. This thing will never run. And after cutting up the firewall and the tranny tunnel to get this VK to fit... Just to realize that it will never fire. Sad day. All that work was put in, and now it's half the car it was before. Quote Link to comment
king bee66 Posted May 18, 2011 Report Share Posted May 18, 2011 i think i remember seeing this on craigslist. if its the same one, hold on to the 5 speed or resell it, dont toss it, Quote Link to comment
flatcat19 Posted May 18, 2011 Report Share Posted May 18, 2011 i think i remember seeing this on craigslist. if its the same one, hold on to the 5 speed or resell it, dont toss it, 5 speed? VK210...what engine did this come with? You might already have a gem on your hands. Quote Link to comment
king bee66 Posted May 18, 2011 Report Share Posted May 18, 2011 he owns the car and hes posted pictures, so hes already doing better then most of the people that want to make these swaps. it was an a15 5speed, not running for some reason Quote Link to comment
VK210 Posted May 18, 2011 Author Report Share Posted May 18, 2011 naw its got a blue print and balanced a15 in it... but the guy i bought it from put synthetic in it and said all the oil ran out the seals... the 5 spd auto tranny is from the infiniti... and flat cat thank you for bringing those concerns up... ive been debating on engine management... i will be in contact with a master infiniti tech to discuss what my options are on engine management... no cutting will be made on the car until i know for a fact that i can make it run... and yall could be right... i may get very deep into and not be able to use the engine... boo hoo... ill still have a completely prepped drag car that any carburated small block would run in... in which case i would have to step outside the nissan family to achieve decent power for a reasonable price... i know i can throw in a ka or sr and make major power too but i think if i go thru all the trouble of prepping for a v8 i should use a v8... and chevy sbc would be the easiest thing to throw in... all i can do is try... please feel free to let me know of anything you think of that could not allow a successful build... all criticism appreciated Quote Link to comment
flatcat19 Posted May 18, 2011 Report Share Posted May 18, 2011 he owns the car and hes posted pictures, so hes already doing better then most of the people that want to make these swaps. it was an a15 5speed, not running for some reason I'd get it running, and rock it. Then later think about compatible swaps. (L, LZ, KA, CA, and God forbid, SR.) He mentioned wanting to do something different than his friends...How bout rocking a classic, and saving money. That sounds different enough from what his friends are doing. I would love to have a B310 2 door. And to know that one more just got taken off this land... :bye: Quote Link to comment
king bee66 Posted May 18, 2011 Report Share Posted May 18, 2011 i wish more people would do the L swap, so i could follow someone elses guide, lol. no way vk210 will do it judging by his posts. vk, are you sure that car doesnt have a 5 speed in it? i cant image there being too many vinyl topped 210s being sold in DFW recently Quote Link to comment
VK210 Posted May 18, 2011 Author Report Share Posted May 18, 2011 its not a vinyl top... thats primer... the previous owner had made a custom hatch out of carbon fiber and kevlar and lexan and only primered after doing so... someone busted the back window out while he owned it... that is the reason i was needing to get that rear window... i bought the car with out a tranny in it... so its possible that it was 5 speed previously... im still in contact with the previous owner so i can ask him for you if you want... sorry i misunderstood the original question... yea it was on cl recently... im sorry if yall dont think i can do it... ima go get back at it... see if i can get this engine out of there before dinner time... Quote Link to comment
Laecaon Posted May 18, 2011 Report Share Posted May 18, 2011 I would still continue to do it, but before cutting the car (firewall...) make sure you can get you motor started. Quote Link to comment
ggzilla Posted May 18, 2011 Report Share Posted May 18, 2011 VK45 is too wide to fit between the strut towers of a 210. You can still fit it, but it would need re-engineering the suspension. If a HEMI 392 can be fitted (and it was) then a VK45 can be done too. They created a new tube frame to fit the 392, so basically it's a drag racing frame with a Datsun body. Datsun 210 (B310) and 510 engine bays are about the same size. B210 has smaller engine bay than 510. Quote Link to comment
VK210 Posted May 18, 2011 Author Report Share Posted May 18, 2011 ok got the motor out... that engine bay is filthy... bout to go steam clean it... relocating and cutting stuff is definately part of this project... but from my measurements of the engine bay and the measurements of the engine i see no reason y its not going to fit... i have already spoken with a friend and he will be cutting me some solid mounts on the cnc... and as far as suspension... thats a no brainer as to whether it is getting a different one... thanks again for the support... now gotta get back at it before the wife gets home... lol Quote Link to comment
DAT510 Posted May 19, 2011 Report Share Posted May 19, 2011 i wanna see this work! Quote Link to comment
flatcat19 Posted May 19, 2011 Report Share Posted May 19, 2011 i wanna see this work! I hate to discourage ya VK. I wish you luck on your quest. Now post some OIC's! Quote Link to comment
metalmonkey47 Posted May 19, 2011 Report Share Posted May 19, 2011 Post more pics VK! I'd really love to see you make this thing work. It would be the coolest 210 ever Quote Link to comment
VK210 Posted May 19, 2011 Author Report Share Posted May 19, 2011 As of this morning the car was sittin like this A little while later it looked like this Then took a few hour break and then couldnt help my self to get back at it lol The car had an ac in it which i believe was aftermarket so it took me a little bit longer messin with those lines and dismantling the condenser So after side tracking with random shit under the hood i grabbed the engine hoist This is what it looked like before i cleaned on it a little After i took all these pics and got all cleaned up i couldnt quit hovering over the car and thinking how i didnt like that grudge all over the place so i cleaned the majority of the engine bay but it was too dark to take pics... will do first thing in the a.m. sorry Quote Link to comment
Gary Posted May 19, 2011 Report Share Posted May 19, 2011 i even have pics of close ups of the measuring tape on the length width and height of engine, tranny, seperate and together, and the engine bay as well... if you've got a moment :lol: reckon you could you tell me some rough dimensions? say from front to back (where the bellhousing bolts to, to the front crank pulley), maybe left to right (the far corners of the left and right timing covers, manifolds dont matter much) and maybe a vague idea of top to bottom (say sump pan to the inner corner of a cam cover)? id dare say its far too big for my kind of enginebay being quad cam and all, but i saw a 351 (in person) that fit quite nicely between the towers of a 620. the closest problem was the steering box Quote Link to comment
VK210 Posted May 19, 2011 Author Report Share Posted May 19, 2011 yea the steering box most definately has to be relocated along with the master cylinder... yea i will try to get the measurements for you... i have to take my daughter to the dr this morning so forgive me if it takes a lil while... Quote Link to comment
VK210 Posted May 19, 2011 Author Report Share Posted May 19, 2011 So i did have all the pics needed... although when i get a chance today i will take more accurate measurements now that the engine is outta there: firewall to core support top of tower to tower crossmember to hood back to front of engine oil pan to around the tops of the head, in fact thats the cam cover on the left there furthest corner to corner of the heads on the front of engine Quote Link to comment
Gary Posted May 19, 2011 Report Share Posted May 19, 2011 no stress man just out of interest is all :D theyre cool lookin engines hey, ill bet they'd sound tits with ITB's Quote Link to comment
VK210 Posted May 19, 2011 Author Report Share Posted May 19, 2011 itb's is the plan... im just not sure how long the runners need to be yet... further research needed in that department... i believe i will be keeping the stock exhaust manifolds up to the cats... then do custom piping from there... the stock ones hug the block so nice i cant see need to build new ones... thanks infiniti for the freebee... lol... after doing some reading im starting to consider sellin my tranny and gettin a 6 spd and adapter plate... not sure how the ecu you will react to that tho... further research needed there too Quote Link to comment
Gary Posted May 19, 2011 Report Share Posted May 19, 2011 i dunno anything definite, but from the vague words i hear about the place, the stock ecm really doesnt like the auto missing sounds like itd be easier to just go full management from the get-go. youd need to find a tuner with some fair mad skillz though Quote Link to comment
VK210 Posted May 19, 2011 Author Report Share Posted May 19, 2011 plannin on completely stripping the engine bay and cleaning it once it cools off outside this evening Quote Link to comment
king bee66 Posted May 29, 2011 Report Share Posted May 29, 2011 this thing meet the scrapper yet? Quote Link to comment
datsunfreak Posted May 30, 2011 Report Share Posted May 30, 2011 lol... after doing some reading im starting to consider sellin my tranny and gettin a 6 spd and adapter plate... not sure how the ecu you will react to that tho... further research needed there too If it's not OBD-II, you should be fine. There's a separate computer for the trans. On my SR20DET and one of my KA24E swaps I ran the auto ECU (no speed limiter :) ) with no problems. Quote Link to comment
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