metalmonkey47 Posted February 25, 2011 Report Share Posted February 25, 2011 To keep it simple, I met a local Puerto Rican Datsun guy and ran by his shop to see his 210. Long story short, he's working on a turbo 3TC swap. It's already got a 5 lug Chevy rear on it. Upon arriving, I saw an L20B and quickly offered him cash for it. He called his brother, and it's now been claimed by me for $150, although he also had a Z22 that came out of the 210. Should I stick with the L20B, or should I go for the Z22? The L20B is in pieces clean and ready to be rebuilt and run. It has a 210 head on it, which IIRC is a low power head that wasn't good for much power. What kind of power would I expect to see from a stock L20B with a 210 head? Oics of said engine if you say please Quote Link to comment
Laecaon Posted February 25, 2011 Report Share Posted February 25, 2011 210 head is what came stock on an L16 motor. nothing fancy. OICS!!! Quote Link to comment
metalmonkey47 Posted February 25, 2011 Author Report Share Posted February 25, 2011 (edited) 210 head is what came stock on an L16 motor. nothing fancy. OICS!!! Maybe it's an L16 and he didn't realize it? I looked for castings on the block, but didn't notice any indentifying marks. i was kind of in a rush though. You can see in the second picture the 210 cast into the head. Edited February 25, 2011 by metalmonkey47 Quote Link to comment
jefe de jefes Posted February 25, 2011 Report Share Posted February 25, 2011 I'm viewing from a phone but it doesn't look like it has a L20 front cover. L16 or L18? Quote Link to comment
metalmonkey47 Posted February 25, 2011 Author Report Share Posted February 25, 2011 I'm viewing from a phone but it doesn't look like it has a L20 front cover. L16 or L18? In the pictures then engine is bare with nothing on it, so it might be difficult to identify. Off to use the search feature Quote Link to comment
jefe de jefes Posted February 25, 2011 Report Share Posted February 25, 2011 In the pictures then engine is bare with nothing on it, so it might be difficult to identify. Off to use the search feature What I meant is that the front cover that is on there now is to a L16 or L18. Doubt that's a L20 Quote Link to comment
Skib Posted February 25, 2011 Report Share Posted February 25, 2011 not an L20B bud. thats an L16/18 front cover. and the 210 is a stock L16 head so its prob an L16. notice the two bolts between the where the fuel pump goes and where the water inlet goes thats the taller L20B cover. in your pic theres only one, thats the L16/18 cover. Quote Link to comment
ggzilla Posted February 25, 2011 Report Share Posted February 25, 2011 Go with the Z22. There's no substitute for cubic centimeters. Quote Link to comment
metalmonkey47 Posted February 25, 2011 Author Report Share Posted February 25, 2011 What I meant is that the front cover that is on there now is to a L16 or L18. Doubt that's a L20 not an L20B bud. thats an L16/18 front cover. and the 210 is a stock L16 head so its prob an L16. I see what you guys mean now I thought it seemed odd that it had a 210 head on it. Go with the Z22. There's no substitute for cubic centimeters. Ain't that the truth. I'm going to go make him an offer and see if he's willing to part with it. If not, I'll still put the L16 in there Quote Link to comment
Skib Posted February 25, 2011 Report Share Posted February 25, 2011 the front cover off the right in this pic is for an L20B Quote Link to comment
metalmonkey47 Posted February 25, 2011 Author Report Share Posted February 25, 2011 (edited) the front cover off the right in this pic is for an L20B Hmmm.. suppose maybe an L16 cover got swapped on maybe assuming they are interchangeable? The block it's resting on is the Z22 IIRC. Wheres the identifying casting on the block? Edited February 25, 2011 by metalmonkey47 Quote Link to comment
Skib Posted February 25, 2011 Report Share Posted February 25, 2011 Hmmm.. suppose maybe an L16 cover got swapped on maybe? nope. the L20B cover has the extra bolt because its taller. cuz the L20B block is taller than the L16/18 ;) Quote Link to comment
hang_510 Posted February 25, 2011 Report Share Posted February 25, 2011 Go with the Z22. There's no substitute for cubic centimeters. X2 & make sure its a Z22 before you leave $$$$ theres no replacement for displacement Quote Link to comment
izzo Posted February 25, 2011 Report Share Posted February 25, 2011 Pretty big hole, should plug it (thats what she said) Quote Link to comment
CharlieBucket Posted February 25, 2011 Report Share Posted February 25, 2011 LZ22... Of course that 210 head might not do the job. But it seems to make good power with the Z22 bottom end and L head up top. Quote Link to comment
metalmonkey47 Posted February 25, 2011 Author Report Share Posted February 25, 2011 Good point Charlie. It think Z22 may be where I go And use some L parts on it. You want my A15 when I pull it? I'll give you a an excellent deal on it ;) Quote Link to comment
CharlieBucket Posted February 25, 2011 Report Share Posted February 25, 2011 Good point Charlie. It think Z22 may be where I go And use some L parts on it. You want my A15 when I pull it? I'll give you a an excellent deal on it ;) Oh yes, you know it! let me know, i'll try to come help. Quote Link to comment
fisch Posted February 25, 2011 Report Share Posted February 25, 2011 You see that flat raised bit on the block below the 3 and 4 spark plug hole? That is where the block would be stamped L20b or L16. Quote Link to comment
metalmonkey47 Posted February 27, 2011 Author Report Share Posted February 27, 2011 The dude came into my store and i mentioned it and he swore up and down it's an L20B and it's cast into the block. Hell, he welcomed me back to take a look at it. I think the Z22 Frankenstein motor would make me happier though. Whats the best head combo for the Z22 for power? And with stock Z22 pistons and an L head (A87 is what I was told would make a good combo) what kind of compression ratio and power should I expect? Quote Link to comment
metalmonkey47 Posted March 1, 2011 Author Report Share Posted March 1, 2011 ^^^^ Bump for info Quote Link to comment
dvboth Posted March 1, 2011 Report Share Posted March 1, 2011 The dude came into my store and i mentioned it and he swore up and down it's an L20B and it's cast into the block. Hell, he welcomed me back to take a look at it. I think the Z22 Frankenstein motor would make me happier though. Whats the best head combo for the Z22 for power? And with stock Z22 pistons and an L head (A87 is what I was told would make a good combo) what kind of compression ratio and power should I expect? i am doing an LZ22 using the U67 head, open chamber, closed chamber is too much compression! Quote Link to comment
metalmonkey47 Posted March 1, 2011 Author Report Share Posted March 1, 2011 I know, thats the L16. ;) The Z22 is a different block that's not pictured. i am doing an LZ22 using the U67 head, open chamber, closed chamber is too much compression! What other cast heads would you recommend for a low compression ratio? I just plan on having it as a daily driver, but I want to make a little more power with it. Something to toy around with I suppose. Quote Link to comment
Laecaon Posted March 1, 2011 Report Share Posted March 1, 2011 Ok fine, misread your post. The Z24 has its cast on the exhaust side directly under the middle 2 spark plug holes or between cylinders 2&3 at the top of the block. I would assume that the Z20 and Z22 are the same. Quote Link to comment
metalmonkey47 Posted March 1, 2011 Author Report Share Posted March 1, 2011 Ok fine, misread your post. The Z24 has its cast on the exhaust side directly under the middle 2 spark plug holes or between cylinders 2&3 at the top of the block. I would assume that the Z20 and Z22 are the same. Thanks boss The block has been stripped and sits in pieces, so I imaging finding the casting won't be difficult once we drag it out of the pile. Gotta check for sure though before giving him any money. Quote Link to comment
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