hessianben Posted November 25, 2010 Report Share Posted November 25, 2010 So, I know it's not a Datsun, but all in the family right? I finally got around to doing the Pathy rear swap in my '02 Frontier after 'bending' a rear axleshaft on a rainy day... (accidentally slid and banged a curb) I had pulled this rear end from a Pick your Part a few months back with Adam (Motavated). THANKS ADAM! It was a half off sale day, so rotor to rotor, it cost under $200. (he didn't charge me for the discs either!) you can see just how much bracketing this thing has on it to hold the 4 link, panhard bar, sway bar, and shock mounts! I thought about leaving them, just in case i go 4 link soon... but i realized that they would be hitting the exhaust and possibly crossmembers at the height the truck is now- so they had to go. The donor was a 1988 4x4 Pathfinder SEv6 with the vg30, rear disc brakes, and clutch style limited slip. The axle code was HG46 i believe, which is geared pretty low compared to my 3:9 stock ratio, but I needed something asap! Grinder assault my buddy Shon putting in work Quote Link to comment
hessianben Posted November 25, 2010 Author Report Share Posted November 25, 2010 The next step was to get it cleaned up and have the leaf perches welded on. I took it to a kid who has done work for me before- fabbed up a trans bracket for my 521. The guy does amazing work. This is his current shop with some of his projects in progress. I took him both the pathy rear as well as the stock frontier rear end so that he could duplicate the exact width of perches as well as setting the exact same pinion angle. another bomb when i got it back, it was BABY smooth! :nana2: see these welds?? :) He even attached the bracket for the brake-proportioning valve in the exact same location! Quote Link to comment
hessianben Posted November 25, 2010 Author Report Share Posted November 25, 2010 Did some SERIOUS cleaning and wire brushing Threw down some primer (using hi-temp engine enamel) and some silver hi-temp Loaded it in and bolted it down after searching hopelessly in the yards for a decent set of calipers, i decided to spend a little more on a set of loaded reman calipers from Kragen... I had to get a shorter driveline made- using the stock front shaft and carrier, but with a shorter rear shaft and flange from the pathy (which i pulled from the yard) I called Drivelines Inc. in Mission Viejo (which I WILL give a shameless plug, because they were amazing!!) http://www.drivelinesinc.com/ and the came to my house that day to take all the measurements and pick up the old driveshafts. The had it done THE NEXT MORNING @@!! :nana1: Got everything bolted back together- new brake hoses and replaced all the stock fluid with Racing Blue. Bled it out- no leaks! filled everything with Redline gear oil and went for a drive! Limited Slip CONFIRMED !! drew some "number eleven's" on a back road and got to do one canyon run in the hills- shift lock is much more effective and immediate, and i can now control the slide with throttle. All in all, incredibly predictable and stable. And, great traction in places where I might spin one tire and understeer. The only thing that still needs working out is the parking brake- the stock setup is mounted under the driver side frame rail, so the cable on the passenger side rear drum is twice as long as the driver side one. the pathy rear has equal length cables that need to mount in the center... so i'm going to have to figure something out... Also, it's still geared lower than I'd like, so the speedo is way off, and my freeway top speed is limited sooner by the ecu's governor (which thinks i'm going 100mph when i'm actually going 80) So, I'm looking for an h233b rear with the 4.3 gears, but it has to be from the years 1987-1990 which have a larger number of bolts on the housing 3rd member than later years. Bottom line: happy! Quote Link to comment
Ken_B Posted November 25, 2010 Report Share Posted November 25, 2010 I LOVE the stance of that truck, colors, wheels. That things sweet! Quote Link to comment
hessianben Posted November 25, 2010 Author Report Share Posted November 25, 2010 Thanks! hopefully now there will be more of THIS!! : Quote Link to comment
Logical1 Posted November 25, 2010 Report Share Posted November 25, 2010 Seriously nice work! Great swap write up and those welds your guy did are SEXY! :thumbup: Quote Link to comment
datsun723 Posted November 26, 2010 Report Share Posted November 26, 2010 Yay Ben! Yay guy who does awesome welding! Yay sexy Frontier :P Quote Link to comment
datzenmike Posted November 26, 2010 Report Share Posted November 26, 2010 I thought I was the only crazy one!!!! . Quote Link to comment
Pacific coast Datsun Posted November 26, 2010 Report Share Posted November 26, 2010 Good work Ben looks super clean.Id like a video of the new exhaust sometime soon :D ;) Quote Link to comment
The Stig Posted November 26, 2010 Report Share Posted November 26, 2010 :huh: you are crazy mike, should have welded the perches on before the beauty paint job...No? I think I'm just going to get a housing from a pick-up, for my LSD project, now that I've seen those welds, which I cant duplicate, I'll be better of not welding mine! 1 Quote Link to comment
hessianben Posted November 26, 2010 Author Report Share Posted November 26, 2010 Mike- you ARE the crazy one. :) jk, I remembered seeing those photos of your grindings at some point- baby smooth! What year is that rear from? I see it has studs instead of bolts for the 3rd member... Quote Link to comment
Braden Posted November 26, 2010 Report Share Posted November 26, 2010 i ahve to say after seeing some of the shittiest welds on here, the guy who welded your perches on knew what the hell he was doing!! he had that thing dialed the fuck in! its wonderful what you can do with square wave technology and a 4,000$ welder and some experience!! Quote Link to comment
TheCiscoKid Posted January 6, 2011 Report Share Posted January 6, 2011 What year is that rear from? I see it has studs instead of bolts for the 3rd member... IIRC the later housings, after around 91, they switched to an 11 stud housing, as opposed to the early 9 bolts. Hessian, yours should be a 9 bolt, correct? The two third members/housings are interchangeable, but to put a 9 bolt third in an 11 stud housing you need to pull 2 of the studs Quote Link to comment
hessianben Posted January 6, 2011 Author Report Share Posted January 6, 2011 IIRC the later housings, after around 91, they switched to an 11 stud housing, as opposed to the early 9 bolts. Hessian, yours should be a 9 bolt, correct? The two third members/housings are interchangeable, but to put a 9 bolt third in an 11 stud housing you need to pull 2 of the studs I believe you are correct, and yes, mine is a 9 bolt rear housing. I wasn't sure if i happened to find a later model rear, if i could make the 3rd member fit, but I think I'll give it a go and post results. thanks! Quote Link to comment
TheCiscoKid Posted January 8, 2011 Report Share Posted January 8, 2011 No problem, heres a picture of an 11 bolt third in a 9 bolt housing, just for sips and giggles While she was belly up i re-torqued my mounting bolts, they were loose and I lost all my gear oil, tossed in some 5w-30 we had and drove it 3 hours home, its a welded 4.3 third Quote Link to comment
hessianben Posted January 8, 2011 Author Report Share Posted January 8, 2011 bahahahaaaa!! all that for a photo?!?! :) looks like a cool pathy from this angle lol! anyway, the 11 bolt drops in no problem? just pull 2 studs? right on! now i need a half off day at pick your part! so that truck started up after being upside down like that!? did all your motor oil run out the breather?? bad ass. Quote Link to comment
hessianben Posted January 8, 2011 Author Report Share Posted January 8, 2011 another question- is there a gasket between the housing and 3rd member? Quote Link to comment
69FJWagon Posted January 9, 2011 Report Share Posted January 9, 2011 awesome conversion man.... but like Mark said I too would like to hear the exhaust followed by a nice squiggly number 11 :lol: :cool: Clayton Quote Link to comment
TheCiscoKid Posted January 10, 2011 Report Share Posted January 10, 2011 Yeah, video of the posi or BAN. You shouldn't have to mod your housing at all because you have the "bolt style housing" just toss it in there. There is a gasket, but RTV works fine, just a bitch to get it on there without smudging it. As for the roll over, I didnt feel like crawling under the truck to tighten the diff bolts :lol:! I was bombing forest service access roads the FIRST time driving with a welded diff, understeered right of the side of a bridge. Took us several hours to get it back on its wheels. About half a quart of oil leaked into the air cleaner, but didnt spill, just soaked into the paper. Starter solenoid was the only mechanical damage, bump started her and got better mileage on the way back without the windsheild! edit- little more info on my pathy's here http://community.ratsun.net/topic/26934-the-white-truck/ Hi-jack over, sweet frontier Quote Link to comment
datrod Posted January 13, 2011 Report Share Posted January 13, 2011 Ben. Nice job on the truck. Next time you take it out to Adams let me know. I wanna see it sideways. :lol: Quote Link to comment
hessianben Posted January 13, 2011 Author Report Share Posted January 13, 2011 I'll be there tomorrow John. Come on out! Bring a video cam and I'll do some burnouts for these monkeys !! Quote Link to comment
datrod Posted January 13, 2011 Report Share Posted January 13, 2011 I'll be there tomorrow John. Come on out! Bring a video cam and I'll do some burnouts for these monkeys !! What time you goin? Quote Link to comment
sinner720st Posted January 13, 2011 Report Share Posted January 13, 2011 im crazy too i guess, but yours looks way sweeter than mine (4.6) Quote Link to comment
hessianben Posted January 13, 2011 Author Report Share Posted January 13, 2011 What time you goin? I usually run the first and 2nd sessions 6-8pm should I look for the wagon or the z? watch out for hard parking integras in the lot! :) Quote Link to comment
hessianben Posted January 13, 2011 Author Report Share Posted January 13, 2011 im crazy too i guess, but yours looks way sweeter than mine (4.6) that'll work!! lets see the finished product! I'm running the same gears, but looking for 4.3 or (wish) 3.9 gears... Quote Link to comment
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