PurePontiacKid Posted July 29, 2010 Report Share Posted July 29, 2010 Just wondering, but how do you lay down coats after the first? while the part is hot, or after it's cooled down? I've tried laying down stuff after my chrome basecoat after it cooled down, but the powder never sticks to the part, and if I spray when it's hot, it's really hard to get an even coat =/ Quote Link to comment
thisismatt Posted July 29, 2010 Report Share Posted July 29, 2010 You gotta coat when it's hot. Maybe you need to adjust your gun and/or air pressure to get a lighter dusting. Quote Link to comment
Master-O-Turbonics Posted August 11, 2010 Author Report Share Posted August 11, 2010 Got the transmission pulled out today. Took an hour from car on the ground till it was pulled(50% of the pulling time spent with the driveshaft hoop and rear sway bar... lol). Now to get started with the shake-n-bake of the two transmissions. Interesting note, as per the Maxima service manual, 5th gear in an 84 Maxima FS5W71B has a .752 overdrive gear! This transmission "should" be good to 240ft/lbs of torque. Everything but the input shaft gear and counter-shaft input gear and bearings are perfectly fine. The spare Maxima 5speed transmission "to be rebuild" that came with the car: If you hear the input shaft bearing going bad, fix it before it does this: Quote Link to comment
Master-O-Turbonics Posted August 12, 2010 Author Report Share Posted August 12, 2010 Got a couple quarts of Royal Purple Synchromax MTF to go back into the "new" shake-n-bake transmission today. Also doing an engine oil change as it probably needs it. lol. Tomorrow I'll be tearing both transmissions apart and hopefully end up with one good trans with all new synchros and bearings. Quote Link to comment
PurePontiacKid Posted August 12, 2010 Report Share Posted August 12, 2010 a little JB weld and that gear will be fine! :lol: you have moar balls than I do, I have a phobia of transmissions, be it autos or manuals lol Quote Link to comment
Master-O-Turbonics Posted August 13, 2010 Author Report Share Posted August 13, 2010 I'm in motorsports technician school taking transmissions class, and have a Nissan service manual. Best place to work on it. This is the spare transmission that came with the car. everything but the shift rods, adapter plate, 5th & reverse will be tossed out. has good 1st, 2nd, 3rd gears with countershaft (but not the input gear for countershaft)... anybody need these? custom built 1.5" (38.4mm, .4mm oversize but it works) deep socket I TIGged up today First TIG welds in 4 years... kinda meh. Its for the big 38mm nut in the center of this picture Quote Link to comment
Master-O-Turbonics Posted August 19, 2010 Author Report Share Posted August 19, 2010 I spent the last 2 days reassembling this FS5W71B... learned a LOT. Parts from both transmissions laid out into one transmission ready for cleaning and then assembly: Fresh adapter plate bearings & cleaned up hardware: "adapter plate" with new bearings and bolts staked back in place. Stack started on mainshaft: gearsets mostly back on with new synchros. 38mm nut torqued to 112 Foot pounds with my DEEEEP socket then staked on to the mainshaft: After the shift rods got put on, I drove in the dual retaining pins and used safety wire wrapped through them two times just to ensure they don't go anywhere. Unfortunately I didn't take a picture of the safety wiring before the transmission went back into the case. Permatex grey sealant was used on the case halves and front cover. Transmission spins very smoothly and shifts very nice even with minimal oil from assembly. Quote Link to comment
datzenmike Posted August 19, 2010 Report Share Posted August 19, 2010 Question: What was the diameter of the front counter bearing on the car. Around '84 they were changed to 62mm and I was wondering if yours was included. I have an '85 CA18ET tranny that was and an unknown year 720 diesel tranny that was. My info shows 0.864 5th gear for the Maxima. I'm more inclined to believe your manual as the Maxima was really a 280zx with a different body. Maybe count the teeth and be sure.Thanks for the great pictures. mike Quote Link to comment
Master-O-Turbonics Posted August 20, 2010 Author Report Share Posted August 20, 2010 Question: What was the diameter of the front counter bearing on the car. Around '84 they were changed to 62mm and I was wondering if yours was included. I have an '85 CA18ET tranny that was and an unknown year 720 diesel tranny that was. My info shows 0.864 5th gear for the Maxima. I'm more inclined to believe your manual as the Maxima was really a 280zx with a different body. Maybe count the teeth and be sure.Thanks for the great pictures. mike The 1984 Nissan Maxima service manual listed a .752 5th gear. I know reverse is different from another FS5W71 trans that I have seen(79 model, C type?) The two FS5W71B transmissions I used had some slight differences.... the shift rods were different and would not work in the different adapter plates. I think 84 was an oddball year for the FS5W71B... the shift forks had dual roll pins (normally a racing modification done on the first gen Z cars) where the 82 transmission was like any other Z car transmission with single roll pins. I have all the old bearings so I'll measure the countershaft bearing. I used the adapter plate from the 84 transmission and the cases from the 82... The rebuild kit with synchros/ bearings was for an "84 maxima" from transtar. I ended up using the 84 adapter plate with shift forks, mainshaft, cases, and 5th and reverse gears. I took 1st-4th and input shaft/corrosponding gear and countershaft off of the 82 transmission. From my 1984 Nissan Maxima service manual, there are some additional parts on one of the shafts of the diesel FS5W71B that are not on the L24E version. Quote Link to comment
datzenmike Posted August 20, 2010 Report Share Posted August 20, 2010 The 1984 Nissan Maxima service manual listed a .752 5th gear. I know reverse is different from another FS5W71 trans that I have seen(79 model, C type?) The first use of an FS5W71C was in the '84 300zx non turbo VG30 and was not used on any 4 cyl until '96.5 The two FS5W71B transmissions I used had some slight differences.... the shift rods were different and would not work in the different adapter plates. I think 84 was an oddball year for the FS5W71B... the shift forks had dual roll pins (normally a racing modification done on the first gen Z cars) where the 82 transmission was like any other Z car transmission with single roll pins. Yeah some changes around '84-'85, that's why I asked about the 62mm counter bearing size. Some have a 16mm 1st/2nd shift rod size up from 14mm. The shift forks are also massive. Because the gears can't be made larger in diameter they have been made wider for strength with narrower synchros. The front cover plate has been modified to allow oil splash in at the top and further lube both front bearings. From my 1984 Nissan Maxima service manual, there are some additional parts on one of the shafts of the diesel FS5W71B that are not on the L24E version. I have an unknown SD 5spd. from a 720 so what were the additional parts??? Quote Link to comment
Master-O-Turbonics Posted August 23, 2010 Author Report Share Posted August 23, 2010 Got the transmission in, and had to modify the new hardware to fit. I just have to fill up the transmission and bolt up the driveshaft. Quote Link to comment
Master-O-Turbonics Posted August 25, 2010 Author Report Share Posted August 25, 2010 gave the new transmission a good 30 minute break-in yesterday and then gave it a good easy drive of about 45 miles. All went well and the transmission shifts very smoothly. Quote Link to comment
Master-O-Turbonics Posted August 30, 2010 Author Report Share Posted August 30, 2010 Long live rustoleum! Quote Link to comment
Stupid_fast Posted August 30, 2010 Report Share Posted August 30, 2010 ^Paint looks nice. I got a question about the transmission, in mine the gears are worn down more than what yours look like. Is it still worth rebuilding, or finding a better condition one to rebuild? Thanks. :D Quote Link to comment
Master-O-Turbonics Posted August 31, 2010 Author Report Share Posted August 31, 2010 ^Paint looks nice. I got a question about the transmission, in mine the gears are worn down more than what yours look like. Is it still worth rebuilding, or finding a better condition one to rebuild? Thanks. :D If the gear teeth themselves are worn, they need to be replaced. find another transmission and do a "shake-n-bake" or just use the second transmission. Quote Link to comment
Master-O-Turbonics Posted August 31, 2010 Author Report Share Posted August 31, 2010 Got a second coat on Today. Wednesday the car gets 2 more coats, door welded back up, interior put onto doors, locks installed, shifter and boots reinstalled, maybe a stereo installed, and finish up some other little projects on the car... Quote Link to comment
Stupid_fast Posted August 31, 2010 Report Share Posted August 31, 2010 If the gear teeth themselves are worn, they need to be replaced. find another transmission and do a "shake-n-bake" or just use the second transmission. Hmmk, thanks. :) Quote Link to comment
Master-O-Turbonics Posted September 2, 2010 Author Report Share Posted September 2, 2010 So the paint is is almost done! Sanded with 220 on a orbital sander: painted with 2 more coats, and wheels hand painted: WICKED COOL!!!!! FREAKING AWESOME! Stereo head unit and a little 75 watt amp for the 8" woofer getting installed as well, newer door need some welding. Quote Link to comment
Master-O-Turbonics Posted September 4, 2010 Author Report Share Posted September 4, 2010 DONE for the summer: Lots of people came together at the end and we pulled it off! Just needs a wash and a good waxing! Quote Link to comment
Master-O-Turbonics Posted September 5, 2010 Author Report Share Posted September 5, 2010 Well the Maxima drove 375 miles today with no issues at all! The transmission has finally completely self-machined all of the synchros and shifts smoothly. It seems that the rear main seal is slightly leaking so I will have to look at that when the car is back in December... Quote Link to comment
Master-O-Turbonics Posted December 17, 2010 Author Report Share Posted December 17, 2010 Stuff on the list for a service on the Maxima coming up: change oil + filter, repack wheel bearings(maybe replace rear bearings if they are bad enough, eek), grease the front end, mount seat sliders for the driver seat(mounted to the floor now), check on rear main seal (replacing that is going to have to wait till summer, or till money comes up for a gasket and bearing rebuild) Quote Link to comment
Princess-O-Turbonics Posted July 3, 2011 Report Share Posted July 3, 2011 I got some new engine V-belts for the car today and Master-O-Turbonics is going to help me install them tomorrow. :-) I need to take pics of Matilda now that I have a DSLR, she's becoming a "Tilly" 'cause she's gettin' purtier ;) Quote Link to comment
Rustina 510 Posted July 5, 2011 Report Share Posted July 5, 2011 Why didn't you pull tue glass BEFOR painting? Quote Link to comment
metalmonkey47 Posted July 5, 2011 Report Share Posted July 5, 2011 She looks good! Princess, if you want any tips taking oics with your D3100, let me know and I'd be happy to teach Quote Link to comment
Princess-O-Turbonics Posted July 13, 2011 Report Share Posted July 13, 2011 She looks good! Princess, if you want any tips taking oics with your D3100, let me know and I'd be happy to teach ok thanks :) It's a beautiful camera, i'm loving it. Quote Link to comment
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