kmc63 Posted June 5, 2010 Report Share Posted June 5, 2010 Im curious. In your opiniuon how much power can you safely add to your 510 without reinforcement? I have about 180hp I figure but if I go turbo or vq that is 100 more hp and in my opinion too much w/no reinforcement. These cars were designed with a 96 hp motor. Quote Link to comment
thisismatt Posted June 5, 2010 Report Share Posted June 5, 2010 Reinforcement to what? Quote Link to comment
kmc63 Posted June 5, 2010 Author Report Share Posted June 5, 2010 The vehicle! Sorry, thought it was a pretty obvious question. Quote Link to comment
HRH Posted June 5, 2010 Report Share Posted June 5, 2010 Speed costs money, how fast do you want to go? A 510 is structurally sound enough to handle 200+ hp, past that, a rollcage is probably a good idea. Either way, the more power, the more load affects the chassis. Quote Link to comment
cjr198car Posted June 5, 2010 Report Share Posted June 5, 2010 I'm building a 510 with power levels that could be well over 300whp. My main concern is braking power, drivetrain durability, and traction. As long as the power you produce can be put to the ground, all mechanical components hold together, and the car can be stopped better than it accelerates skys the limit on what you can put together. Edit: With regards to the chassis I would most definitely put a cage in. Quote Link to comment
kmc63 Posted June 5, 2010 Author Report Share Posted June 5, 2010 Speed costs money, how fast do you want to go? A 510 is structurally sound enough to handle 200+ hp, past that, a rollcage is probably a good idea. Either way, the more power, the more load affects the chassis. Thankyou HRH. I dont consider myself at all knowledgeable about cars,but I was thinking exactly the same thing any more than 200 hp cage it. Quote Link to comment
INDY510 Posted June 5, 2010 Report Share Posted June 5, 2010 After looking at some mini-tubs on 510's........... I don't see what is holding the rear suspension besides the frame rails and the back seat tray. I know some people don't even weld up their mini-tubs.......... but isn't that structural? Quote Link to comment
kmc63 Posted June 5, 2010 Author Report Share Posted June 5, 2010 I'm building a 510 with power levels that could be well over 300whp. My main concern is braking power, drivetrain durability, and traction. As long as the power you produce can be put to the ground, all mechanical components hold together, and the car can be stopped better than it accelerates skys the limit on what you can put together. If you dont cage it your gonna end up with a pretzel. Quote Link to comment
thisismatt Posted June 5, 2010 Report Share Posted June 5, 2010 The vehicle! Sorry, thought it was a pretty obvious question. Oh, okay. Yeah, the quarter windows are going to need some major gusseting for over 200hp, and you'll likely need to upgrade to synthetic blinker fluid for the speeds and acceleration you'll be reaching with that kind of power. Seriously, though. There are plenty of over 200hp/ftlb 510s that have never needed any reinforcement to the unibody structure. You're more likely going to blow up the diff, half shafts, or break a rear control arm (mainly due to them being 40 years old and rusting or just by being stupid and running into something). Quote Link to comment
cjr198car Posted June 5, 2010 Report Share Posted June 5, 2010 my car has a five point with a harness bar. Quote Link to comment
Radim Posted June 5, 2010 Report Share Posted June 5, 2010 Danger to the Manifold Quote Link to comment
kmc63 Posted June 5, 2010 Author Report Share Posted June 5, 2010 What?must be the moon cabbage? Quote Link to comment
kmc63 Posted June 5, 2010 Author Report Share Posted June 5, 2010 my car has a five point with a harness bar. Nice, ever take it down the strip? Quote Link to comment
metalmonkey47 Posted June 5, 2010 Report Share Posted June 5, 2010 I'm building a 510 with power levels that could be well over 300whp. lol 300whp... I've seen your build. you and I both know you're going to make well over that. Quote Link to comment
cjr198car Posted June 5, 2010 Report Share Posted June 5, 2010 Yep, With a small nitrous shot (probably a 75 shot on my bone stock vg30e) I did 8.5 at about 85 mph in the 1/8th. Should be way faster this year! -Colton Quote Link to comment
kmc63 Posted June 5, 2010 Author Report Share Posted June 5, 2010 I watched and heard your vg kinda idle (nasty) makes my stock vg seem tame. Quote Link to comment
cjr198car Posted June 5, 2010 Report Share Posted June 5, 2010 The cams really killed the low end, but my butt dyno says the mid range and top end far out weigh the loss in torque. Quote Link to comment
kmc63 Posted June 5, 2010 Author Report Share Posted June 5, 2010 From the sound of it. I bet your butt is right., Quote Link to comment
DISLEXICDIME Posted June 5, 2010 Report Share Posted June 5, 2010 I am getting chassy flex in my car back where the rear pillar and the quarter pannel meet Quote Link to comment
banzai510(hainz) Posted June 5, 2010 Report Share Posted June 5, 2010 kmc63 180HP what you got in there? 180 is impressive if a L motor. Almostt unbelievable if N/A Quote Link to comment
kmc63 Posted June 5, 2010 Author Report Share Posted June 5, 2010 I am getting chassy flex in my car back where the rear pillar and the quarter pannel meet That is precisely the reason I started this topic.I love my 510 and it is in very nice shape for its age. I dont want to cage it so I will keep the power where it is. But,if I get another one in not quite as good of shape,well haha we might just go a little frankenstein. Quote Link to comment
kmc63 Posted June 5, 2010 Author Report Share Posted June 5, 2010 kmc63 180HP what you got in there? 180 is impressive if a L motor. Almostt unbelievable if N/A A vg-30 w/headers,k&n,and a larger fuel plenum. Im just guessing 180. Quote Link to comment
banzai510(hainz) Posted June 5, 2010 Report Share Posted June 5, 2010 my yellow convert has a box beam from front map pockeket area to the B piller then up angle to the fender well. welded together. I really need to take a photo of this soemtime. My dad is a big Hawaiian guy and with no roof the car still shuts the doors perfect w both of us in there. No flex. Car was a 4dr. Quote Link to comment
DISLEXICDIME Posted June 6, 2010 Report Share Posted June 6, 2010 my yellow convert has a box beam from front map pockeket area to the B piller then up angle to the fender well. welded together. I really need to take a photo of this soemtime. My dad is a big Hawaiian guy and with no roof the car still shuts the doors perfect w both of us in there. No flex. Car was a 4dr. hay take pic for me please! i am trying to figure out how i want to tackle this Quote Link to comment
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