dbuzz77 Posted April 19, 2010 Report Share Posted April 19, 2010 I thought a pitcher had water in it and i topped off a cell with antifreeze, now the cell is dead. i was going to pump it out and get new acid, does anyone know if this will work? thanks Quote Link to comment
thisismatt Posted April 19, 2010 Report Share Posted April 19, 2010 I don't know...worth a try I guess. Also... "Another possibility, Keenan reports, is the use of antifreeze (ethylene glycol), which when added to a mixture of nitric and sulfuric acid would create an explosive liquid compound called ethylene glycol dinitrate. Similarly, an ingredient in toothpaste, propylene glycol, becomes deadly when added to a mixture of concentrated nitric and sulfuric acids creating the liquid explosive called metriol trinitrate, which is similar to nitroglycerine. " :lol: Quote Link to comment
datzenmike Posted April 19, 2010 Report Share Posted April 19, 2010 Thought you were kidding about Rat-thylene glycol dinitrate (RAT- EGDN) (I changed a few letters because the RATCIA monitors certain words used on the internet) Otherwise they would send in the troops for brewing home made 'shit'. Eventually we won't be able to cross the ------ into the ------ to go to Canby because we have a battery in the car.:lol: Lou you out there? Quote Link to comment
philcas1987 Posted April 19, 2010 Report Share Posted April 19, 2010 I don't know...worth a try I guess. Also... "Another possibility, Keenan reports, is the use of antifreeze (ethylene glycol), which when added to a mixture of nitric and sulfuric acid would create an explosive liquid compound called ethylene glycol dinitrate. Similarly, an ingredient in toothpaste, propylene glycol, becomes deadly when added to a mixture of concentrated nitric and sulfuric acids creating the liquid explosive called metriol trinitrate, which is similar to nitroglycerine. " :lol: Yeah lol! Had a conversation with one of my battery suppliers. He said its a big no no to add water to a battery. Acid is inexpensive. Quote Link to comment
fivetenzen Posted April 19, 2010 Report Share Posted April 19, 2010 Yeah lol! Had a conversation with one of my battery suppliers. He said its a big no no to add water to a battery. Acid is inexpensive. I use to work with the guys that restored the Lead acid batteries out in the minuteman missle sites in montana and they use to drain them rinse them out and fill them - and charge them. they did charge them, and drain the voltage and then charge them again. They worked good as new - So i think you might be able to do it. Good Luck Steve Quote Link to comment
Guest 510kamikazifreak Posted April 19, 2010 Report Share Posted April 19, 2010 Thought you were kidding about Rat-thylene glycol dinitrate (RAT- EGDN) (I changed a few letters because the RATCIA monitors certain words used on the internet) Otherwise they would send in the troops for brewing home made 'shit'. Eventually we won't be able to cross the ------ into the ------ to go to Canby because we have a battery in the car.:lol: Lou you out there? :lol: Yup here I am Quote Link to comment
ariascarlos1990 Posted April 19, 2010 Report Share Posted April 19, 2010 You should use distilled water. Not just water out of the tap. Quote Link to comment
datzenmike Posted April 19, 2010 Report Share Posted April 19, 2010 Batteries today need almost no maintainance, buy them, install and forget. Back in the '60s I used to use the distilled water from the dehumidifier for topping up the car batteries. It was common to check it every couple of weeks. I think the 'maintenance free' batteries came out in early '70s. Before early '60 cars used generators that would over charge batteries on long trips so drivers would run with headlights on to 'soak it up'. If you saw a car with headlights on during the day you knew he was on a holiday trip. Quote Link to comment
MikeRL411 Posted April 19, 2010 Report Share Posted April 19, 2010 I use to work with the guys that restored the Lead acid batteries out in the minuteman missle sites in montana and they use to drain them rinse them out and fill them - and charge them. they did charge them, and drain the voltage and then charge them again. They worked good as new - So i think you might be able to do it. Good Luck Steve Of course those batteries were bigger than a Bluebird! Think a battery bigger that the average office desk. Seriously, they were the original Lead-Calcium batteries, the precursors of today's Maintenence Free batteries. [see how innovations originating in the Military world eventually migrate to the civilian world?] The above drain, refill and cycle the charge proceedure should work! Just be sure to drain and flush with demineralized or distilled water. Quote Link to comment
fivetenzen Posted April 19, 2010 Report Share Posted April 19, 2010 Of course those batteries were bigger than a Bluebird! Think a battery bigger that the average office desk. Seriously, they were the original Lead-Calcium batteries, the precursors of today's Maintenence Free batteries. [see how innovations originating in the Military world eventually migrate to the civilian world?] The above drain, refill and cycle the charge proceedure should work! Just be sure to drain and flush with demineralized or distilled water Well almost as big, no they were only about 18X36x30 and weight 1500 lbs I think - can't remember how many was on site. But yes distilled water always, Maintenance teams always took out distilled water to fill the batteries and radiator on the diesel generator. Steve Quote Link to comment
dbuzz77 Posted April 20, 2010 Author Report Share Posted April 20, 2010 don't let them fool you about adding water to maintenance free batteries. i maintained batteries for a living for 31 years. they just want you to buy a new one in 3 years. if you keep up the water level, it will go a lot longer. a local battery store said flush it with epsom salts solution and replace the acid. i will try it tomorrow. Quote Link to comment
racerx Posted April 21, 2010 Report Share Posted April 21, 2010 If you can't remove the caps, you can't add water but if they are removal then you should add when low...that's just common sense. Low water, battery has to work harder, no water no chemical reaction to make electrical. Quote Link to comment
dbuzz77 Posted April 21, 2010 Author Report Share Posted April 21, 2010 flushed with epsom salts twice, then added some acid from another battery. (the local shop said they would give me acid then didn't have any) charged with my new constant current charger. turns over my truck like crazy now. thanks Quote Link to comment
Datsun fan Posted April 28, 2010 Report Share Posted April 28, 2010 about Rat-thylene glycol dinitrate (RAT- EGDN) (I changed a few letters because the RATCIA monitors certain words used on the internet) Otherwise they would send in the troops for brewing home made 'shit'. Eventually we won't be able to cross the ------ into the ------ to go to Canby because we have a battery in the car.:lol: Lou you out there? Fire in the hole ................ Alright let's move out. :lol: Quote Link to comment
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