sliding_creep Posted February 15, 2009 Report Share Posted February 15, 2009 simple questions: 74' 610 L20B, affixing an 81' 280zx(NA) 5-speed and flywheel which has a 240mm contact surface. 1) which would be more desireable for my purposes, 240mm or look for a 225mm? 2) and what size clutch kit (diameter) should i use? (as my parts suppliers have only the two sizes of 8" dia. and 9" dia. and look at me crosseyed for mentioning metric anything.) cheers Quote Link to comment
datzenmike Posted February 15, 2009 Report Share Posted February 15, 2009 (edited) It appears that only the '76-'78 2+2 and the '82 and up turbo had the 240mm flywheel. But over the years lots of stuff could have been swapped I guess. You have little choice. The size of the 280zx 240mm flywheel determines the clutch and pp used on it. If you want to go with the smaller 225mm you will have to find a truck L20B flywheel or any 240/260 or any other 280z, 810 or 810/Maxima flywheel. BTW the 720 4X4s and all Z24 720s used 240mm clutch and flywheel combos. 8" is 203.2mm or most likely 200mm used on Roadsters and all L and Z series 4cyl cars till '82. 9" is 228.6mm or probably 225mm used on all L20B truck motors, 2wd Z series truck, 810 and 810/Maxima and most Z cars. Edited February 15, 2009 by datzenmike Quote Link to comment
HRH Posted February 15, 2009 Report Share Posted February 15, 2009 (edited) Don't forget, not that you'd probably use it, but a Z20s flywheel has a unique pressure plate mounting. And a Z24 flywheel can only be used with a Z24 crank. It'll vibrate like an sob on the other cranks. Edited February 15, 2009 by HRH Quote Link to comment
datzenmike Posted February 15, 2009 Report Share Posted February 15, 2009 8" is 203.2mm or most likely 200mm used on Roadsters and all L and Z series 4cyl cars till '82. I had a Z20E flywheel and it was a 200mm and I didn't see much difference between it and a 225/240mm except the width. Quote Link to comment
sliding_creep Posted February 15, 2009 Author Report Share Posted February 15, 2009 EXCELLENT! thanks for the quick replies and good info! now the whole setup came out of a complete 81' 280zx, probably a late 81' or an early 82' (would explain the flywheel) and all the parts looked kosher when i yanked 'em, which would indicate to me that if that car didn't have a problem running it then mine should be okay to run too. that is priovided i ask the fv(k-tard supplier for a truck or a zx-turbo clutch kit. i suppose if anyone knows of or had a bad experience with this setup i believe i can get a re-man flywheel (contact dia. of my choosing) for cost and core thru a friend's supplier for 45 clams. i will await further prompting from smart people, b'fore i eff sumthin' up! thanks again for all the help! cheers Quote Link to comment
djlotus Posted February 15, 2009 Report Share Posted February 15, 2009 This makes me think of the White Bunny setup. Try a search for White Bunny Special and see if it helps you out. Quote Link to comment
sliding_creep Posted February 15, 2009 Author Report Share Posted February 15, 2009 This makes me think of the White Bunny setup. Try a search for White Bunny Special and see if it helps you out. wierd, i can't get anything pertaining to flywheel selection. just some really nice stories and or pics of sweet snowy pickups and or brilliant 4dr 510's. thanks though! cheers Quote Link to comment
datzenmike Posted February 15, 2009 Report Share Posted February 15, 2009 And a Z24 flywheel can only be used with a Z24 crank. It'll vibrate like an sob on the other cranks. Matt I haven't heard this. The L and Z cranks are balanced and the flywheels will swap. I have an L20B 225mm on my Z24 and works fine. Quote Link to comment
sliding_creep Posted February 15, 2009 Author Report Share Posted February 15, 2009 i'll take DATZENMIKE's response as a confirmation and just run the 240! i'm off to the races! cheers Quote Link to comment
datzenmike Posted February 15, 2009 Report Share Posted February 15, 2009 (edited) Some makers like GM? balance the motor by using the flywheel and so the crank AND flywheel must stay together. Some use the crank pulley. I believe that Datsun balances the crank thus all L and Z flywheels will swap. If the flywheel were the true balance then the mounting bolts would be staggered so that it could only be bolted on it one position. Edited February 15, 2009 by datzenmike Quote Link to comment
djlotus Posted February 16, 2009 Report Share Posted February 16, 2009 wierd, i can't get anything pertaining to flywheel selection. just some really nice stories and or pics of sweet snowy pickups and or brilliant 4dr 510's. thanks though! cheers I meant a google search, my b, it's a clutch/flywheel setup that 240 guys run on their ka's. Takes them from a 225mm setup to a 240mm setup using zx parts. Quote Link to comment
datzenmike Posted February 16, 2009 Report Share Posted February 16, 2009 DJ I take it the KA uses a 225mm clutch/flywheel then? I've seen the crank and know it's 6 bolt and looks like the L and Z pattern. The Z tranny will fit on a KA so the flywheel/starter is similar. Does the ZX flywheel swap on without mods???? Quote Link to comment
djlotus Posted February 16, 2009 Report Share Posted February 16, 2009 There's really no modification to get the 240mm clutch on the ka. Just collect the correct parts and call it a day. http://240sxdrifter.tripod.com/writeups/whitebunny.html Quote Link to comment
sliding_creep Posted February 16, 2009 Author Report Share Posted February 16, 2009 There's really no modification to get the 240mm clutch on the ka. Just collect the correct parts and call it a day. http://240sxdrifter.tripod.com/writeups/whitebunny.html whoops! tee hee! thanks for the link, cool write up. no sense in wasting time getting a different flywheel since i have a perfectly good one to use:D! although i am curious about being able to hook up that KA-DE to this trans??? might not want to swap to a CA-18DET, just go KA! thanks again! cheers Quote Link to comment
datzenmike Posted February 16, 2009 Report Share Posted February 16, 2009 (edited) Your zx tranny would need a pre '83 Z series front case half swapped onto it in order to properly fit the KA motor. The later Z series front case can be used but needs more mods. Edited February 16, 2009 by datzenmike Quote Link to comment
hang_510 Posted February 17, 2009 Report Share Posted February 17, 2009 Matt I haven't heard this. The L and Z cranks are balanced and the flywheels will swap. I have an L20B 200mm on my LZ24 and works fine. = my set up Quote Link to comment
sliding_creep Posted March 4, 2009 Author Report Share Posted March 4, 2009 DONE and DONE! runs friggin' great w the Z 2+2 5 speed and the 240mm flywheel! THE EASIEST auto to manual swap ever! i gotta find another cheap automatic car and swap it out. my local boneyard is fulla them 280 5-speeds! thanks again for all the help and advice!!! cheers Quote Link to comment
zerow Posted March 5, 2009 Report Share Posted March 5, 2009 Right On! I'm happy to hear that the swap went well. Quote Link to comment
banzai510(hainz) Posted March 5, 2009 Report Share Posted March 5, 2009 if the 610 L20b has the orginal flywheel wouldnt it be a 200mm set up. As L20s in cars were 200mm ,The Roadster 200mm pressureplate set up will work on this if you want more clamping L20s in trucks 225mm(heavey flywheel) setups Quote Link to comment
sliding_creep Posted March 7, 2009 Author Report Share Posted March 7, 2009 stock they s'posedly come 6-bolt 200mm. i dunno, this was an auto car. flex-plate. cheers Quote Link to comment
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