Troy Fodor Posted May 10, 2018 Report Share Posted May 10, 2018 I have a Ka24de swap into my 510 wagon. I went off the wiring diagram given online.Even Checked FSMt for this Year motor. Motor Turns over but Wont start. doesn't seem like I'm getting ground signal to Injectors. spark is there n fuel is good. not sure how to Post photos to show the wiring into the Can am. but Fuel pump comes on n then turns off after Few seconds. also tried another ECU still not working. any help please. 1 Quote Link to comment
Draker Posted May 10, 2018 Report Share Posted May 10, 2018 Make sure the coil is getting power when the key is in the start position. I had this issue, turned out it was not one.. but TWO bad ignition switches. I had to swap out for a third.. really dumb. You can check by spinning the dizzy with it in the on position. The plugs should spark. 2 Quote Link to comment
]2eDeYe Posted May 10, 2018 Report Share Posted May 10, 2018 The fuel pump should shut off when it gets to pressure. How are you checking for spark? Quote Link to comment
Troy Fodor Posted May 10, 2018 Author Report Share Posted May 10, 2018 Pulled the wire coming from coil going to Dizzy. Then pulled a Spark plug wire. Fuel pump does go off after 3-4 seconds. Quote Link to comment
Troy Fodor Posted May 10, 2018 Author Report Share Posted May 10, 2018 Im not getting - signal from injectors. Quote Link to comment
kelowg Posted May 11, 2018 Report Share Posted May 11, 2018 Ck ur grounds. Clean harness plug connections. U sure dizzy in correctly? 1 Quote Link to comment
Troy Fodor Posted May 11, 2018 Author Report Share Posted May 11, 2018 So I got the negative signal now. But now I’m thinking my Injectors are bad. Is there any way to test the injectors? Quote Link to comment
Troy Fodor Posted May 11, 2018 Author Report Share Posted May 11, 2018 Got the grounds Quote Link to comment
Troy Fodor Posted May 11, 2018 Author Report Share Posted May 11, 2018 I can get the car to start n run wit Carb cleaner. Dizzy is stock 1 Quote Link to comment
kelowg Posted May 11, 2018 Report Share Posted May 11, 2018 Wire injector to.12.volts,but like only second or two. Should hear it click and pass fuel or carb cleaner thru it. Just wemt thru this, had to get new ones. Cleaned the old and failed after 5 mins. Quote Link to comment
Troy Fodor Posted May 11, 2018 Author Report Share Posted May 11, 2018 Do you think I should just get new ones n not have to deal wit it? Quote Link to comment
]2eDeYe Posted May 11, 2018 Report Share Posted May 11, 2018 Best to know what the problem is before throwing parts at it. Quote Link to comment
Troy Fodor Posted May 11, 2018 Author Report Share Posted May 11, 2018 Very true will yesterday I figured out some wires to give me the negative to injectors but still not getting fuel in. I’ve checked Fuel pump. I checked my return line to make sure it’s flowing thru. But when I check spark plugs they are Dry. The only code I get from ECU is 34 when is Knock sensor n I was told that won’t make the car not start Quote Link to comment
Troy Fodor Posted May 11, 2018 Author Report Share Posted May 11, 2018 I spray carb cleaner starts right up Quote Link to comment
]2eDeYe Posted May 11, 2018 Report Share Posted May 11, 2018 I would pull each injector and see if they are spraying in a decent pattern with direct power. If not then replace them, if they do then you could still have a wiring or ECU problem. Quote Link to comment
Troy Fodor Posted May 12, 2018 Author Report Share Posted May 12, 2018 Only 1 Injector is spraying Quote Link to comment
]2eDeYe Posted May 12, 2018 Report Share Posted May 12, 2018 Sounds like it's time for new ones :) Quote Link to comment
Draker Posted May 12, 2018 Report Share Posted May 12, 2018 There is a resistance spec for the injectors. Ohm them out, that might tell you if they are bad. If you have one good one, swap it to the location of the bad ones. Make sure it still operates in each port... If it works... then the others are bad. Don't waste your money on shit you might not need. 1 Quote Link to comment
KoHeartsGPA Posted May 12, 2018 Report Share Posted May 12, 2018 Do you have another ECU that you know works to check with? 1 Quote Link to comment
Troy Fodor Posted May 13, 2018 Author Report Share Posted May 13, 2018 Yea I got 3 new injectors. But still having start up problems. So now I think timing is issue. But I got it to start n idle fine. Sounds ok. Still need to get knock sensor & intake Tube Quote Link to comment
Troy Fodor Posted May 13, 2018 Author Report Share Posted May 13, 2018 The only code I’m getting is 34 which is Knock sensor. Quote Link to comment
KoHeartsGPA Posted May 13, 2018 Report Share Posted May 13, 2018 Might be the ECU, we chased a spark issue for hours and hours on one of our local guys KA swap and the next day he plugged in another ECU and fired right up, I highly recommend trying another working ECU before you continue to shoot in the dark, might be that simple, once you eliminate the ECU as a cause then it is easier to move on. Also, everything needs to be plugged in or the ECU will get codes and not run correctly. 2 Quote Link to comment
FrankRizzo Posted May 16, 2018 Report Share Posted May 16, 2018 "Still need to get knock sensor & intake Tube "... .....That "intake tube" is important to the operation of everything. The IACV needs metered air after the MAF for the engine to run correctly. Leaks in the intake will make it run like cr@p. Try some spray carb or MAF cleaner in the IACV also. Knock Sensor is $40 on rockauto.com FYI... . 2 Quote Link to comment
hosestop@msn.com Posted May 16, 2018 Report Share Posted May 16, 2018 Why only one inj, troy check that the other three from ECM are hooked up. This was a running motor right ? 1 Quote Link to comment
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