SKkeeterZ Posted January 15, 2012 Report Share Posted January 15, 2012 http://medford.craigslist.org/ YFW Quote Link to comment
metalmonkey47 Posted January 15, 2012 Report Share Posted January 15, 2012 Stupid anti-piracy assholes. Shutting down google, facebook, etc will NOT stop online piracy. Quote Link to comment
jon521 Posted January 15, 2012 Report Share Posted January 15, 2012 So can someone break down this whole SOPA thing for me? Quote Link to comment
SKkeeterZ Posted January 15, 2012 Author Report Share Posted January 15, 2012 So can someone break down this whole SOPA thing for me? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stop_Online_Piracy_Act Quote Link to comment
jon521 Posted January 15, 2012 Report Share Posted January 15, 2012 thats shitty. Quote Link to comment
Laecaon Posted January 15, 2012 Report Share Posted January 15, 2012 Sopa is dieing, dont forget about PIPA as well. Quote Link to comment
crackerjack69 Posted January 15, 2012 Report Share Posted January 15, 2012 Basically all it is saying is they will have the right to investigate and punish people who are stealing. It says nothing about "shutting down" any websites except those who's purpose is to facilitate theft of people's property. Unless I missed part of it? DAMN!!! Internet censorship has gotten to me already. Time to stock up on ammo. Now don't get me wrong, I love stealing programs and music via torrent sites, but it IS illegal and everyone knows that. Quote Link to comment
DAT510 Posted January 15, 2012 Report Share Posted January 15, 2012 Share don't steal! Quote Link to comment
Laecaon Posted January 15, 2012 Report Share Posted January 15, 2012 Basically all it is saying is they will have the right to investigate and punish people who are stealing. It says nothing about "shutting down" any websites except those who's purpose is to facilitate theft of people's property. Unless I missed part of it? DAMN!!! Internet censorship has gotten to me already. Time to stock up on ammo. Now don't get me wrong, I love stealing programs and music via torrent sites, but it IS illegal and everyone knows that. Say you go to facebook, and post a copyrighted picture, facebook can be shut down. Without trial, without reason,at the whim of 1 person. Sounds like it could be abused to me for censorship purposes. But it is a dieing pig, opposition is strong especially as more and more know about it. Quote Link to comment
crackerjack69 Posted January 15, 2012 Report Share Posted January 15, 2012 Say you go to facebook, and post a copyrighted picture, facebook can be shut down. Without trial, without reason,at the whim of 1 person. Sounds like it could be abused to me for censorship purposes. But it is a dieing pig, opposition is strong especially as more and more know about it. Facebook would not be held liable as long as they took action to remove the illegal material, as stated in the bill. The person posting the illegal material would be the one at risk of legal action. Quote Link to comment
VoidDragon Posted January 15, 2012 Report Share Posted January 15, 2012 Reread SOPA. & the arguments against it. In its current form a site just linking to copy righted material can be shut down. On accusations. Sopa is right up there with net neutrality on the list of things endangering the internet as we americans know it. SOPA is the sort of thing you hear about China or some dictatorship doing. Quote Link to comment
Laecaon Posted January 15, 2012 Report Share Posted January 15, 2012 Facebook would not be held liable as long as they took action to remove the illegal material, as stated in the bill. The person posting the illegal material would be the one at risk of legal action. Even so, Is a site as large as facebook able to control everything that gets posted? No. You can never stop pirates, pirates get the thrill of finding new ways around, they are hackers. Sharers are those who illegally download. Pirates will always find a way. On top of that, let me say this: I have friends who buy cds and dvds; but they dont do it often. Then I have friends who download illegally, and in turn buy more cds and dvds than those who dont download at all. These same friends listen to music constantly, they must listen to everything, and in doing so help spread the word to others about the next big thing. I hate record companies. When you compare what they earn compared to the artists, I would rather download the music illegally and then go to that bands concert and buy band merchandise because I know they will earn more money from me that way. That said illegal is illegal. And SOPA is stopping. And it appears PIPA may be too. Quote Link to comment
djlotus Posted January 15, 2012 Report Share Posted January 15, 2012 http://www.vice.com/read/lamar-smith-sopa-copyright-whoops Quote Link to comment
king bee66 Posted January 15, 2012 Report Share Posted January 15, 2012 dont get me wrong. i download torrents all the time and think there is nothing wrong with doing so. the problem is is that SOPA is not just limited to piracy, it encompasses all copywritten material. youtube; reddit; digg; tumblr, all sites that deal with sharing would be effectively shutdown. but yea as laecaon mentioned, SOPA and PIPA arent likely to pass at this point Quote Link to comment
king bee66 Posted January 15, 2012 Report Share Posted January 15, 2012 searching google after SOPA Quote Link to comment
Aaron Datsun Posted January 15, 2012 Report Share Posted January 15, 2012 I love SOPA. It reminds me how far this country has come... In the wrong direction Quote Link to comment
Hardwyre Posted January 15, 2012 Report Share Posted January 15, 2012 SOPA is just another piece of bullshit legislation enacted by a Congressional member who has NO CONCEPT of HOW THE INTERNET WORKS. All he did was take a bribe and a pamphlet and started this bullshit crusade. If you want to know what SOPA would do to the internet, just look at all the patent law bullshit with smart phones. Now, make it 10,000 times EASIER for companies to stop you from "infringing" upon their "works" by simply letting the companies themselves fill out a $14 form, and get your ENTIRE SITE banned from DNS resolution servers (the servers that make it so you can type in Ratsun.net instead of 69.163.156.58) just because people are so much as talking about "questionable" content. Blogger.com has tens of thousands of people running blogs on its service, yet if just ONE comment on ONE blog (not even the blog itself) makes EVEN JUST A MENTION of POSSIBLY illegal or copyrighted material, some corporation can get all of Blogger.com blacklisted from DNS directories, fucking over thousands of peoples' blogs. It takes the whole Constitutional "innocent until proven guilty" and wipes asses with it, because you don't even get a warning period to either correct, remove, or otherwise deal with questionable content on your site; you your site taken down, and you have to FIGHT to get it back up. It's funny, because I had a dubstep Youtube play list open in one of my tabs. 45 videos, different groups, musicians, etc. Nothing actually uniting these videos together, other than someone made and shared a youtube playlist/mix of them. Today, EVERY SINGLE ONE of those videos has been taken down due to "repeat copyright infringement notices" from the exact same three "groups". 45 videos, all unrelated for the most part, and yet they're all taken down by the same three claimants. All someone did was got him and handful of his friends to file DMCA claims, in order, on each video in the play list. It is a perfect example of how SOPA will work, because instead of Youtube doing any verification, fact checking, etc, they just remove the videos once the number of claim exceeds a certain number, and then the person who put up the video has to do all the work to prove the claims are bullshit. Here's the playlist I'm talking about: 1 Quote Link to comment
DAT510 Posted January 15, 2012 Report Share Posted January 15, 2012 http://vilimpoc.org/research/sopa-blackout-simulator/ Quote Link to comment
king bee66 Posted January 15, 2012 Report Share Posted January 15, 2012 youtube was like the wildwest before they were sued by viacom. you could find clips of everything. i look at my "favorite" clips on that site from 5-6 years ago and they too are all banned. Quote Link to comment
KC Phirus Posted January 15, 2012 Report Share Posted January 15, 2012 It's ok guys. I bought several petabyte hard drives. I'll gladly let you access the internet but ask that you provide your own Ethernet cables. These cables must reach my router so they may need to be really, really, really long. Quote Link to comment
Hardwyre Posted January 15, 2012 Report Share Posted January 15, 2012 There is an "industry" SOPA will create though. The "comment assassin" (I copyright that term since I just made it up; I will sue anyone who uses it!). Millions of little Indian and Chinese kids getting paid $0.25 per comment to go to competitor webpages and post links to torrents and other "illegal" content, so that the contracting company can use the comment URL as "proof" of violation and get the whole site banned from the internet. Quote Link to comment
Hardwyre Posted January 15, 2012 Report Share Posted January 15, 2012 It's ok guys. I bought several petabyte hard drives. I'll gladly let you access the internet but ask that you provide your own Ethernet cables. These cables must reach my router so they may need to be really, really, really long. I have a 56k modem. Can I just dial your server? Quote Link to comment
KC Phirus Posted January 15, 2012 Report Share Posted January 15, 2012 I have a 56k modem. Can I just dial your server? I have a 90's network array for "work at home" business connections through the phone, so yes, if I find it. Quote Link to comment
Laecaon Posted January 15, 2012 Report Share Posted January 15, 2012 Addressing why it has not been on TV: http://mediamatters.org/mmtv/201201150002 Quote Link to comment
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