Zfighter76 Posted November 7, 2011 Report Share Posted November 7, 2011 will it fit. i checked on the search tool and nothing came up. i have access to a buunch of a12 engines, some of them marked and some unmarked (i know that was being talked about on another thread), and i wanted to start a hi performance build with one just for fun, and possibly to throw in a stripped down shell to take to willow springs. anyways, does anybody know if an l series trans will fit on an a12? any info will be appreciated. Quote Link to comment
wayno Posted November 7, 2011 Report Share Posted November 7, 2011 will it fit. i checked on the search tool and nothing came up. i have access to a buunch of a12 engines, some of them marked and some unmarked (i know that was being talked about on another thread), and i wanted to start a hi performance build with one just for fun, and possibly to throw in a stripped down shell to take to willow springs. anyways, does anybody know if an l series trans will fit on an a12? any info will be appreciated. I beleave an A series(B210) will bolt to the A12 block, doubt the L block trannys will. Quote Link to comment
Zfighter76 Posted November 8, 2011 Author Report Share Posted November 8, 2011 alright, just though i remember someone talking about a good five speed coming out of an a series but maybe i was mistaken. thanks anyways though Quote Link to comment
wayno Posted November 8, 2011 Report Share Posted November 8, 2011 alright, just though i remember someone talking about a good five speed coming out of an a series but maybe i was mistaken. thanks anyways though ggzilla would know this info, maybe he will chime in. Quote Link to comment
datzenmike Posted November 8, 2011 Report Share Posted November 8, 2011 alright, just though i remember someone talking about a good five speed coming out of an a series but maybe i was mistaken. thanks anyways though Well there were three 5 speeds used on the A series including the FS5W63A dogleg, same as the ones used in the 200sx. Bolt patterns were different. Quote Link to comment
datsunaholic Posted November 8, 2011 Report Share Posted November 8, 2011 No. Physically different size bellhousing. There were both FS5C63A 5-speeds for both L and A series engines, but the front case was cast specifically for each application. You CAN switch the front case, but that requires having the correct transmission to swap FROM. Quote Link to comment
Zfighter76 Posted November 9, 2011 Author Report Share Posted November 9, 2011 so at my school, i have like 20 or so a12's. my auto shop teacher said i could have one, none of them have ever been installed or started, but used to demonstrate compression tests and valve jobs. one of them has a bell housing, would it be a good idea to use that bell housing to a 280z 4 speed? i dont know what trans was on it because none has transmissions. what are my options as far as bolt up transmissions? i kinda wanna build up the engine on the side and then throw it in a car when im done, so im not rushed or anything. Quote Link to comment
datzenmike Posted November 9, 2011 Report Share Posted November 9, 2011 Get the optional FS5W63A dogleg from an April '76- December '78 B-210. It would be the perfect swap and is way over strength for the tiny A 12 motor. (and it fits) Quote Link to comment
Pedro Posted November 9, 2011 Report Share Posted November 9, 2011 Anyone done a cut and shut on the L series 5 speed & A series 4 speed bellhousing? I've seen a S15 6 speed put behind an A series the same way, so stands to reason. Quote Link to comment
Dime Dave Posted November 9, 2011 Report Share Posted November 9, 2011 No. Physically different size bellhousing. There were both FS5C63A 5-speeds for both L and A series engines, but the front case was cast specifically for each application. You CAN switch the front case, but that requires having the correct transmission to swap FROM. You will need to swap the A series input shaft along with the A series front case. The L input shaft uses a larger ID pilot bushing and it will not fit into the engine. You will also need to use a B210 5 speed clutch disc to match the larger diameter splines on the 63 transmission to the smaller OD A series clutch. Quote Link to comment
Zfighter76 Posted November 15, 2011 Author Report Share Posted November 15, 2011 Get the optional FS5W63A dogleg from an April '76- December '78 B-210. It would be the perfect swap and is way over strength for the tiny A 12 motor. (and it fits) hard to find? Quote Link to comment
ggzilla Posted November 15, 2011 Report Share Posted November 15, 2011 No it is not hard to find. There's one on Craiglist just about every month. Quote Link to comment
Zfighter76 Posted November 15, 2011 Author Report Share Posted November 15, 2011 so should i type in "fs5w63a"? or do i type in b210 dog leg or what? datsuns dont seem to be as common in so cal as in washington/oregon, you think ill still find something around here? Quote Link to comment
ggzilla Posted November 16, 2011 Report Share Posted November 16, 2011 FS5W63A came in two versions: one for L-series engine, and one for A-series engines. Just type in B210 5-speed. Because only the B210 ever came with it. And search using Google, not the search box on your local Craigslist site cause that won't search the whole USA. Quote Link to comment
datzenmike Posted November 16, 2011 Report Share Posted November 16, 2011 And don't forget that there are sellers who don't have a clue and think they have a B-210 dogleg when what they really have is a 60 series one from a 210. Always know more about it than the seller so you will get what you want. ggzilla there was also a Z series dogleg complete with a closer ratio gear set. Well, 1st and 2nd are lower number than the L series and reverse is a higher number. Quote Link to comment
Zfighter76 Posted November 16, 2011 Author Report Share Posted November 16, 2011 ok thanks guys. and if one of the a series engines that i am getting has a bell housing already, would i be able to bolt it up to any dogleg???? just swap bell housings? another plus, well, at least i think, i was looking through all of them all today and swapping parts to make the best complete one i could, and one has an electronic distributor. is that stock on an a series? is that uncommon or rare even? none of these engines have ever been ran other than on the stand so i doubt someone would have breplaced the dizzy. i wanted to get this one also because its the one with the bell housing and all the stock equipment. it also has a fan clutch which none of the others have. Quote Link to comment
ggzilla Posted November 16, 2011 Report Share Posted November 16, 2011 Nope. None of them have a separate bellhousing. Instead most Nissan transmission have the bell pattern cast into the tranmission 'front case'. If you find a 5-speed for an A-series engine, that's all you need. There is no separate bell housing that you would have to look for it. Quote Link to comment
ggzilla Posted November 16, 2011 Report Share Posted November 16, 2011 one has an electronic distributor. is that stock on an a series? is that uncommon or rare even? Quite common. Most A-series engines in the USA came with electronic distributor. Only the 1971-1976 models came with points distributors. Quote Link to comment
Zfighter76 Posted November 16, 2011 Author Report Share Posted November 16, 2011 so is it rare to have a points dizzy on one necessarily? or are they both common, just different years? and what would the transmission bellhousing on the one a12 be from??? thanks for the help by the way Quote Link to comment
ggzilla Posted November 16, 2011 Report Share Posted November 16, 2011 A-series manual transmissions do not have a bellhousing. Quote Link to comment
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