Ratsun: Health/Fitness

[datzenmike]

Cut out sugar... it's in everything. Stop eating the worst offenders like pop, candy bars and juices. Get rid of bread, cereals, cookies and pastries of all kinds. Yeah it's hardbut if you are honest enough you can treat yourself once in a while. I haven't had any bread, pop, juice, candy bars, cookies, crackers in three months. I lost 20 pounds in a few weeks and it's stayed off. I'm slightly hungry all the time but not that ravenous hungry like when the sugar wears off.

 

I rarely used to eat meat and ate instead lots of carbs. Well guess what, carbs are basically a longer sugar molecule. If you don't burn it up it gets stored as fat. Instead I eat all the meat and butter and eggs and fish and chicken, pork/bacon and cheese and fat I want.

[MikeRL411]

Oh, I've torn muscles, tore a pectoral muscle so bad it made a big wad and needed reattached. This is my rotator cuff, I have mashed all the goody out of them.

That's the one my wife tore up! I mean the rotator cuff.  Not the pectorals!  Go with the DaVinci robo surgery and you will recover much faster and with almost no residual scars.

[mrbigtanker]

One word of personal advice from someone who has been lifting for more than a couple decades....When it comes to bench, don't do a huge amount of weight just because you can. With 250 (ish) you will probably be fine, but I am going to need shoulder surgery soon and it was due from me always obsessed with increasing my max.

 

So that is not true sorry,everybody is built different and peoples tolerances are not the same.I am 42 and been working out my whole life plus martial arts when I was a lot younger,I bench over 530 lbs and rep out 4 plates without batting a eye humbly speaking,The truth is when you are always humping and then just stop or slow way down is when the body wants to shut down.. Just like a guy who worked his whole life retires and then does nothing but rest all day, that's when the body says I have had enough and it's time to go.I will keep pushing to do more weight up until I hurt myself and then call it quits..

 

Oh and let's not forget about shoulders my other favorite work out,behind the head military press and not a smith machine almost at 4 plates.I just love it. I am eathier blessed or lucky,and strength is not everything I know I know.I just do it because I enjoy it.

 

Yea now pump some Iron yea.

[smoke]

Well, there you have, totally false. 

 

530 lbs 

[I'm BLUE]

Sounds like a good work out more muscle training and less cardio..people think cardio is the way to loose weight and there wrong,muscle training is the best hands down period.

 

A guy like me should do cardio I can lift very heavy things but I have no cardio which of course gives more stamina and heart rate.

 

Thanks tanker yes sir ! 

You're definetly on spot there I totally agree !!!

Heavier (relative) really is the way to go.... !

 

Well shit since you lift L20b's for warm up ... :lol: :cool: :thumbsup:

My stamina is genetically  :poop: , so I think I have a slight idea :)

 

One word of personal advice from someone who has been lifting for more than a couple decades....When it comes to bench, don't do a huge amount of weight just because you can. With 250 (ish) you will probably be fine, but I am going to need shoulder surgery soon and it was due from me always obsessed with increasing my max. 

 

Thanks smoke I take that advice seriously...

I pushed myself to hard some years ago , and well...... that didn't go so well lol.

Haven't been doing this stuff as long as you or tanker though. Just on and off (literally).

 

Took me a while to realize..... but I've been "forcefully" taking more enjoyment in some of the smaller exercises over bench ...

just rotate things through as I go if I can ... still favorite though ...

 

I think that's on spot 250lb seems to be plenty enough ... I entirely agree with that 100% .... and it's really where I should stay for sure.

Found out in between from my doctor that my thyroid is also screwing with the joints/muscles again... so really should take it easy until balanced.

For me ... doing 225lbs or 200lbs ..... literally (not whining) feels like I might as well do 100lbs .... for reps .... the entire time .... nah-i-mean ..... :lol: :D

Meh ... I need to shut my pie hole ....

 

Best luck on the shoulder rotator cuff surgeory man ... well when that does happen ..... that's a bitch ..... times 3.....

 

 

Oh, I've torn muscles, tore a pectoral muscle so bad it made a big wad and needed reattached. This is my rotator cuff, I have mashed all the goody out of them.

 

  :blink:

 

Cut out sugar... it's in everything. Stop eating the worst offenders like pop, candy bars and juices. Get rid of bread, cereals, cookies and pastries of all kinds. Yeah it's hardbut if you are honest enough you can treat yourself once in a while. I haven't had any bread, pop, juice, candy bars, cookies, crackers in three months. I lost 20 pounds in a few weeks and it's stayed off. I'm slightly hungry all the time but not that ravenous hungry like when the sugar wears off.

 

I rarely used to eat meat and ate instead lots of carbs. Well guess what, carbs are basically a longer sugar molecule. If you don't burn it up it gets stored as fat. Instead I eat all the meat and butter and eggs and fish and chicken, pork/bacon and cheese and fat I want.

 

Yup !!!

I've done the atkins to start then slightly modified , and then finally have just been eating all around better.

Also have done the atkins (fully) 2 times before ?

Not sure I stayed off everything like that ... jeebus ... you're a better man than I

( I love sugar...lol ).

 

In the process I found out I was allergic to gluten , green apples , lactose intolerant , blah blah blah.

 

Good on you Mike...:thumbsup:  I love protein over carbs .... but sugar is king in my book.

 

I currently eat "some" good carbs... as I need the energy to burn somedays... others not so much :lol: :D

I know you bike everyday .... for miles and miles .... not sure how the hell you do it without many carbs ... :cool:

 

You can have Mrs D mail the sugar/carbed out blue-berry muffins to Oregon....... if it'll help you ....... :hyper: :lol: :D

 

That's the one my wife tore up! I mean the rotator cuff.  Not the pectorals!  Go with the DaVinci robo surgery and you will recover much faster and with almost no residual scars.

 

Holy shit. That's very good to hear. My father has been putting this off as well (he's 67 this year) , and has been looking to getting it done to his right rotator cuff. Sounds like your wife is a tough one ... good on her ! :cool:

[I'm BLUE]

So that is not true sorry,everybody is built different and peoples tolerances are not the same.I am 42 and been working out my whole life plus martial arts when I was a lot younger,I bench over 530 lbs and rep out 4 plates without batting a eye humbly speaking,The truth is when you are always humping and then just stop or slow way down is when the body wants to shut down.. Just like a guy who worked his whole life retires and then does nothing but rest all day, that's when the body says I have had enough and it's time to go.I will keep pushing to do more weight up until I hurt myself and then call it quits..

 

Oh and let's not forget about shoulders my other favorite work out,behind the head military press and not a smith machine almost at 4 plates.I just love it. I am eathier blessed or lucky,and strength is not everything I know I know.I just do it because I enjoy it.

 

Yea now pump some Iron yea.

 

HOLY SHIT !!!.... :blink: .... :cool:  very cool tanker .... 

 

... no martial arts for BLUE he's already a clumsy @#$^.... as is .... :rofl:

[MikeRL411]

 

 

 

Holy shit. That's very good to hear. My father has been putting this off as well (he's 67 this year) , and has been looking to getting it done to his right rotator cuff. Sounds like your wife is a tough one ... good on her ! :cool:

 

My wife was in her seventies when we went through this.  Tell your Dad to get to the right surgeon while there's still enough muscle and tendon ends to make a reconstructive surgery feasible!  The longer you wait, the harder it is to find viable muscle and tendon ends to latch on to!  Your own body's tissue is best.  I would not hazzard a guess about the merits of Dacron / Synthetic / cadaver tissue, that's why you have a pre-Op sit down.  Best of luck in finding the right surgeon, operating facility, and rehab locations!  My personal goal is to celebrate my 120th birthday while I still remember who the hell I am!

[I'm BLUE]

My wife was in her seventies when we went through this.  Tell your Dad to get to the right surgeon while there's still enough muscle and tendon ends to make a reconstructive surgery feasible!  The longer you wait, the harder it is to find viable muscle and tendon ends to latch on to!  Your own body's tissue is best.  I would not hazzard a guess about the merits of Dacron / Synthetic / cadaver tissue, that's why you have a pre-Op sit down.  Best of luck in finding the right surgeon, operating facility, and rehab locations!  My personal goal is to celebrate my 120th birthday while I still remember who the hell I am!

 

Thank you MikeRL411 it's appreciated ! I will definetly tell him what you've just shared with me :) . I've been trying to carefully get him to do the very very very light exercises recommended the last few years by the doctor that has recently passed away. Best luck on your personal goal as well thats awesome !

[RatVonDude]

[mrbigtanker]

Well, there you have, totally false. 

 

I am weak for body weight.

[mrbigtanker]

 

Sorry Smoke its not 530 but its 500 its the only picture i got. Will that do for now

[mrbigtanker]

My wife was in her seventies when we went through this.  Tell your Dad to get to the right surgeon while there's still enough muscle and tendon ends to make a reconstructive surgery feasible!  The longer you wait, the harder it is to find viable muscle and tendon ends to latch on to!  Your own body's tissue is best.  I would not hazzard a guess about the merits of Dacron / Synthetic / cadaver tissue, that's why you have a pre-Op sit down.  Best of luck in finding the right surgeon, operating facility, and rehab locations!  My personal goal is to celebrate my 120th birthday while I still remember who the hell I am!

Very good Mike I like the last sentence the best. :thumbup:  :thumbup:

[smoke]

You guys need to switch to 75 pound plates, 45s are a hassle.

 

[datzenmike]

We had a young kid at work last summer on a surveying crew. His work partner and party chief called him the 'meat head'. He had a huge upper body from lifting weights but couldn't climb a hill without stopping for breath. Looks good in the gym and at parties but in the real world there's not much need to lift 300 pound rocks or logs.

 

Balance is the difference between a GP and a specialist.

[smoke]

I walk to my car, as long as it's on flat ground. If it's up a hill, I sell it.

[mrbigtanker]

You guys need to switch to 75 pound plates, 45s are a hassle.

 

Is that you smoke

[I'm BLUE]

Is that you smoke

 

He doesn't have the goggles on from his avatar ... couldn't be him ;)

 

:blink: ...Very cool smoke  .. :cool:

 

 

I walk to my car, as long as it's on flat ground. If it's up a hill, I sell it.

 

Well then.... just gonna have to move your VW uphill a little ways for ya.

 

Then stand by with cash :D

[Nuclear Water Boy]

We had a young kid at work last summer on a surveying crew. His work partner and party chief called him the 'meat head'. He had a huge upper body from lifting weights but couldn't climb a hill without stopping for breath. Looks good in the gym and at parties but in the real world there's not much need to lift 300 pound rocks or logs.

 

Balance is the difference between a GP and a specialist.

Very good point that I have to 100% agree to. I lift and work out alot but no more than my body weight 185lbs most of the time as I don't want to get big just maintain. My primary workout is Racquetball about 12 games a week. Can I lift more oh ya but don't see the point. I'm 58 and B'slap the younger players in the court because I can get around the court. It also helps when I hand wax the 510 naturally a bucket of beers close by is excellent incentive.

 

Lou "12oz curls never tore a rotator"

[datzenmike]

Wax on... wax off.

[I'm BLUE]

That's awesome Nuclear Water Boy.

Especially the bucket of beers incentive part ... lol....

My stamina's always been kinda poop via genetics..... lol .... but I try to lift then curl beers myself ! lol

 

 

 

Still doing weights , eliptical , crunches , and pullups.

Changed around routine again.

Doing a few more situps , and side situps per session.

Haven't been doing that last 10% since it's been so nice outside .... know what I mean ??? lol

 

[I'm BLUE]

Staying positive , and decided to stay around this area of routine for now.

 

250lbs bench x 8-10 reps x as many sets as I feel comfortable with.

70lb-85lb arm curls x 8-11 reps with however many sets I can sneak into failure or comfort zone.

Pullups - as many as I can do in several sets.

 

Changed out routine to

*Elitpical 4-5 days a week

*Situps/etc 4-5 days a week

*Arm days

*Chest days

*Shoulders/Traps days

*Back days

*Some leg exercise days here or there.

*Change out routine with deadlifts ,etc thrown in the mix.

 

 

All in all pretty ... basic ... stuff .... ! This is

kinda somewhere in between routine for me right now between building , and toning.

My body doesn't respond well to over-training unless it's just 1-day a week per some groups of muscles.

A shitload of music in the MP3 player seems to be the key , and sometimes a lift partner obviously helps more than anything.

Nothing special here , and I'm not too serious either just trying to stay in check.

Feeling pretty good though , and it's working all things considered with sleep/health/other factors in the mix.

 

Get er done... !