mypos620 Posted April 4, 2007 Report Share Posted April 4, 2007 what is the most drop you can get without bags? i want to run mine slammed before i bag it since thats about 2 months away. what if any are any tips anyone could give me. Quote Link to comment
]2eDeYe Posted April 4, 2007 Report Share Posted April 4, 2007 About 5-6"s Torsion bars in front and blocks in back minus a few leaves (I wouldn't pull leaves myself) Your crossmember will die this low... Quote Link to comment
Bleach Posted April 4, 2007 Report Share Posted April 4, 2007 you can drop it to the ground without bags. The real question is, how much ground clearance do you want on a static drop and are you looking to notch the rear frame or leave it alone? I ran about 4" of clearance. I think Icehouse has less. maybe 3" Quote Link to comment
Bulletside Posted April 5, 2007 Report Share Posted April 5, 2007 yeah like ]2eDeYe said maybe 6" if you trim the bump stops. You might want to turn your torsion bars up 1 spline too. Quote Link to comment
datsun Posted April 5, 2007 Report Share Posted April 5, 2007 what size wheels i layed mine on 16s w/o cutting Quote Link to comment
Icehouse Posted April 5, 2007 Report Share Posted April 5, 2007 2eDeYe;4825']About 5-6"s Torsion bars in front and blocks in back minus a few leaves (I wouldn't pull leaves myself) Do worry about them breaking? P.S if I didn't have to commute I would go even lower :) Quote Link to comment
mypos620 Posted April 5, 2007 Author Report Share Posted April 5, 2007 im going to do 6in blocks in the rear this weekend (i have 3in now) my bars are turned down as far as i can tell as far as they can go. ive been told you can get longer bolts to get more drop is this true? Quote Link to comment
BEEBANI Posted April 5, 2007 Report Share Posted April 5, 2007 Why go to all this trouble if you're gonna bag it in a couple of months? Just let me bag it now! I sent you a pm. Quote Link to comment
Bleach Posted April 5, 2007 Report Share Posted April 5, 2007 im going to do 6in blocks in the rear this weekend (i have 3in now) my bars are turned down as far as i can tell as far as they can go. ive been told you can get longer bolts to get more drop is this true? You reindex the bars one notch to get them lower, plus doing that keeps the arms up above the frame. I you buy longer bolts then the adjustment arms hang low. 4" blocks are the tallest you can get. I know you weren't thinking of stacking blocks.... that's no good :mad: Quote Link to comment
]2eDeYe Posted April 5, 2007 Report Share Posted April 5, 2007 Do worry about them breaking? It has more to do with the ride quality/handling for me...and u-joint life (axle wrap kills u-joints quick) You don't need longer bolts, just re-index the torsion bars... http://www.nwde.org/extras/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=3901&KW=index I agree with Bee...why do the same thing three times (if you installed the 3" blocks) I would wait and do it right, which would include shaving the carrier bearing crossmember. Quote Link to comment
RB_Shaggs Posted April 5, 2007 Report Share Posted April 5, 2007 i really need to reindex my torsion bars already went through one of the torsion brackets.. the other clearence problem is the tranny xmember and hitting the frame if you don't have a notch.... the axel hitting the frame can get annoying.. Quote Link to comment
]2eDeYe Posted April 5, 2007 Report Share Posted April 5, 2007 I dunno I found the BANG! BANG! somewhat relaxing :D Quote Link to comment
RB_Shaggs Posted April 5, 2007 Report Share Posted April 5, 2007 well with all the static dropped vehicles i have driven i have gotten use to it.. but people who ride in my truck always ask " :eek: what the hell was that did something break" so on second thought mono leaf it with a flipped overload and a 3 inch block.. :D Quote Link to comment
Icehouse Posted April 5, 2007 Report Share Posted April 5, 2007 2eDeYe;4895'']It has more to do with the ride quality/handling for me...and u-joint life (axle wrap kills u-joints quick) Since you are also a 4x4 dude I have a question for you :D I see jacked up fords all the time, it seems they shim the axle to reduce the drive line angle. At the tranny/transfercase the angle is very bad and its not the same angle as the lower u-joint. So why don't they get drive line vibrations? I do see them stranded on the side of the road from time to time. With the drive line laying on the ground :eek: I left the overloads in my leaf pack, so now instead of 3 leafs I have 2. I want to C notch it so the axle has some where to go during ruff conditions. Right now I have about 1 inch of suspension travel in the rear. I bought a set of rear shocks from Hainz that work great. I only hit the frame on BIG bumps, and the front is way worse (on the cut stoppers :( ) Quote Link to comment
BEEBANI Posted April 5, 2007 Report Share Posted April 5, 2007 Jeff, let's just drop that bitch! Pay me later, or something, let's just get it done! Your truck yearns to be on the ground! Quote Link to comment
Icehouse Posted April 5, 2007 Report Share Posted April 5, 2007 Jeff, let's just drop that bitch! Pay me later, or something, let's just get it done! Your truck yearns to be on the ground! Dude tell me about it! I wish I had a king cab frame I could just drop off at your place. Shit if only we live a few hours closer. Quote Link to comment
BEEBANI Posted April 5, 2007 Report Share Posted April 5, 2007 I found a complete kc near me for $50! I've been trying to call the guy, it doesn't run but it's all there! Quote Link to comment
Bleach Posted April 5, 2007 Report Share Posted April 5, 2007 gotta have factory discs though... :D Quote Link to comment
BEEBANI Posted April 5, 2007 Report Share Posted April 5, 2007 I just want the body, much rather have a kc then a longbed! It should drop right on shouldn't it bleach? Quote Link to comment
]2eDeYe Posted April 5, 2007 Report Share Posted April 5, 2007 Since you are also a 4x4 dude I have a question for you :D I see jacked up fords all the time, it seems they shim the axle to reduce the drive line angle. At the tranny/transfercase the angle is very bad and its not the same angle as the lower u-joint. So why don't they get drive line vibrations? I do see them stranded on the side of the road from time to time. With the drive line laying on the ground :eek: I left the overloads in my leaf pack, so now instead of 3 leafs I have 2. I want to C notch it so the axle has some where to go during ruff conditions. Right now I have about 1 inch of suspension travel in the rear. I bought a set of rear shocks from Hainz that work great. I only hit the frame on BIG bumps, and the front is way worse (on the cut stoppers :( ) You can run a double cardan joint (sometimes called a CV) It's basically a 2 u-joint-joint lol With this you just rotate the pinion to point at the output flange (or whatever is there) and your angles good. Yeah , those big truck guys make me laugh too... I just unbolted my bumps and tossed em ;) I've been debating notching the new frame and maybe recessing the spring mounts...Shouldn't be too difficult but I have a lot of work to do before I get there...:rolleyes: BEE the bed mounts are different...I think Quote Link to comment
Icehouse Posted April 5, 2007 Report Share Posted April 5, 2007 2eDeYe;4951']I've been debating notching the new frame and maybe recessing the spring mounts...Shouldn't be too difficult but I have a lot of work to do before I get there...:rolleyes: Dude you need update us :D I have an excuse, my phone camera is broke :( Quote Link to comment
RB_Shaggs Posted April 5, 2007 Report Share Posted April 5, 2007 if the bed mounts are all that is different and the frames are the same length you could put a kc body on your frame with minor fab work (but that shouldn't be a problem for you :D :D ) just my 2 cents but i have seen it done with toyotas Quote Link to comment
datzenmike Posted April 6, 2007 Report Share Posted April 6, 2007 My old '79 Ford Bronco had a very short wheel base and some height. It had a double cardan joint... smooth! A Constant Velocity joint's driving members are steel balls constrained in curved grooves between the forks of the joint (photo at left). These joints are also called Double Cardan joints. This design operates efficiently up to a 80 Quote Link to comment
]2eDeYe Posted April 6, 2007 Report Share Posted April 6, 2007 You want pics of me cleanin parts? :P Quote Link to comment
mypos620 Posted April 6, 2007 Author Report Share Posted April 6, 2007 what would dubble stacking blocks do? im new to this all around and learning as i go. Quote Link to comment
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