blasta510 Posted February 27, 2008 Report Share Posted February 27, 2008 I bought it off ebay. It was off of a 620 p.u. It has this controle box with it. Do i need to use this? If so where do i hook it? I am putting it on a 1972 Datsun 510. Quote Link to comment
banzai510(hainz) Posted February 27, 2008 Report Share Posted February 27, 2008 get some piggyback splices for the autoparts store so you dont have to be cutting the stock wires these dist had a EI coil for that year model truck(lower ohm value made to run o straight 12volts). If you get one you will NOT use the 510 ballast resistor & 510 coil. where you see the blk/wht wire this will be your 510 wire already going to the ballast resisitor hook this up to the coil and make another wire and using the splice I told you to get route it to the module. Of coarse this will be what ever color you make it but going by the drawing would also be a blk/wht wire. also some people use a GM ignition module incase the Nissan Box goes bad. PS I dont see the pedastal that the dizzy mounts to. a L16 mount will bot fit a L20 mount for the timming plate. unless your 510 already has a L18/20b dizzy motror in there. Its hard to tell. but usaully if you have a dual pount dizzy its a L16 pedastal/mount in there On a side maybe more confusing note: I have seen the stock coil and ballast in a EI Nissan set up(Matchbox) Maybe you can run the stock coil and ballast just use the 12volt side of the ballast resistor to power the module. I have NOT done this on either Nissan ignitions systems. So I could be talking out my ass but seen it on Jeff Hino 12oo with a A motor it had a Boxbox anstill ran a coil with ballast (I assume the coil was a POINT IGNITION coil) Quote Link to comment
ggzilla Posted February 28, 2008 Report Share Posted February 28, 2008 That's a 1978 ignition system. Just go to the library and get the Nissan 200SX book (publisher: Nissan), it has a wiring schematic for it. Quote:Originally Posted by mklotz70 We all have datsuns in common, but only a few of the guys on here actually eat in them, sleep in them, and breathe on them. I love art too, but Datsun comes first. The datos are the canvas for now.....that canvas might change, but the art will continue Quote Link to comment
datzenmike Posted February 28, 2008 Report Share Posted February 28, 2008 It was also used on the '78 620 truck. If you need the right coil for what you bought, any '78 and up 620/720 truck will work. Quote Link to comment
ggzilla Posted February 28, 2008 Report Share Posted February 28, 2008 You can use the stock (non-electronic system) coil and ballast with it. Or you can use the '78 coil and no ballast resistor. Either way. Quote Link to comment
blasta510 Posted February 28, 2008 Author Report Share Posted February 28, 2008 The distrubuter is off a 78 620. So i am going to need a new coil off of the 78 or newer one. im confused. So what is the control box for?? And do i need it at all? I was also thinking about getting the msd ignition and blaster 2 coil... is it worth the money. Sorry im a noob. Quote Link to comment
ggzilla Posted February 28, 2008 Report Share Posted February 28, 2008 Like I said, you *don't* need a special coil. Use the one you got. Or if you have the 78 coil use that instead, it is better. MSD worth the money? Not unless you are racing, where your revving to 7000 rpm and every 100th of a second counts. The 1978 Nissan system is high-energy. It is good. Yes, you need the control box. That's the "electronic" part of this system. Quote Link to comment
banzai510(hainz) Posted February 28, 2008 Report Share Posted February 28, 2008 isnt this what I said Maybe you can run the stock coil and ballast just use the 12volt side of the ballast resistor to power the module that drawing should be good enough. PS what about the pedastal? did it come with one? the correct one. Ps if you dont know what your doing have somebody that knows Datsuns help you. If your near Covington washington I could help you These modules are usually in the cab of the car/truck So I dont know where you want to mount this. Maybe ? in the engine bay?? Im not a expert on the eviromental reliablitiy of these units in the engine bay. I know this is confusing if you dont feel good about it then dont do it till some one can help you. the BLUE wire on the ignition Control unit I think you would not use it unless you have a tach I might have to make a drawing to make this ezer for you. But really just get a a PIGGYBACK splice and hook it up to the +side of the ballast reisitor then the rest is in the Transisitor ignition diagram. Ignor the Pertronix drawing Im just showing the the red wire on the pertronix wanted 12volts and I hooked itup to the +side of the ballast. You will do the same with the Ignition BOX to to get your 12volts. Quote Link to comment
blasta510 Posted February 29, 2008 Author Report Share Posted February 29, 2008 How will i know where to plud this control box in. Does my 510's wiring harness have a plug for it. If not i got the harness from the 78 that i think might have the plug. Should i use this? I live in colorado so i dont think you could help me. Quote Link to comment
banzai510(hainz) Posted February 29, 2008 Report Share Posted February 29, 2008 Dude IN my orginal post it has the drawing on how to do this. To get the POwer to the ignition box(youll use a piggyback jumper from the +side of the ballast. Make a wire!!!!!!What ever color you want it. then use the drawing red + side of Coil green - side of coil. PS If you has a L16 distributor the timming plate wont line up correctly with the one you have. cause itts a L20 timming plate and the slotted hole wont line up correctly to hold it down or be the correct time. if unsure dont do it!!!!!!!!!!!!! other wise this car will be on the side of the house. I dont see the correct timming pedastal anyways, untill you anwser thhis question Im done Quote Link to comment
blasta510 Posted February 29, 2008 Author Report Share Posted February 29, 2008 Where would i get the correct timing plate? sorry for being such a noob. Quote Link to comment
ppeters914 Posted February 29, 2008 Report Share Posted February 29, 2008 Hey, don't feel pregnant. All the n00bs get abused. Welcome to the Looney Bin :lol: Quote Link to comment
banzai510(hainz) Posted February 29, 2008 Report Share Posted February 29, 2008 going by the photo you have a timming plate on it. You need the pedastal photo left is L16 pedastal the other a L20 one. But there are 2 type of L20 ones Quote Link to comment
ppeters914 Posted March 1, 2008 Report Share Posted March 1, 2008 I was also thinking about getting the msd ignition and blaster 2 coil... is it worth the money. The coil is worth it if your coil is bad and/or you want a bitchin' cool red one: BEFORE AFTER Quote Link to comment
ggzilla Posted March 1, 2008 Report Share Posted March 1, 2008 I want a red coil! This might help. Go to the county/city library and check out the Nissan books in the reference desk -- they will have the wiring diagram for the control box. Quote Link to comment
ppeters914 Posted March 1, 2008 Report Share Posted March 1, 2008 going by the photo you have a timming plate on it. You need the pedastal photo left is L16 pedastal the other a L20 one. But there are 2 type of L20 ones http://forum.ratsun.net/attachment.php?attachmentid=677&stc=1&thumb=1&d=1204325375 Ummm, now I'm confused. You say L16 on the left and L20 on the right, but the note on the paper in the pic says they're both L20. :blink: Quote Link to comment
kiznook Posted March 1, 2008 Report Share Posted March 1, 2008 I'm not a very big fan of MSD products, and it's really not something I felt like advertising. So I wrapped mine with a Saporro can. Would have used PBR or something else, but I figured Japanese car, Japanese beer! this picture sucks but you can kind of make it out Quote Link to comment
ppeters914 Posted March 1, 2008 Report Share Posted March 1, 2008 I'm not a very big fan of MSD products, and it's really not something I felt like advertising. So I wrapped mine with a Saporro can. Would have used PBR or something else, but I figured Japanese car, Japanese beer! Nice. How about a Asahi can for a windshield washer resevoir: Quote Link to comment
banzai510(hainz) Posted March 2, 2008 Report Share Posted March 2, 2008 Peters the note is wrong!!!!!!!!! left is L16 Rt L20 Quote Link to comment
Bleach Posted March 3, 2008 Report Share Posted March 3, 2008 I had a 'NOS Energy Drink' for a radiator overflow tank :) Quote Link to comment
hang_510 Posted March 3, 2008 Report Share Posted March 3, 2008 i think im gonna put this over my coil... Quote Link to comment
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