Engine juddery, loss of horsepower.

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Not even visible unless I max it all the way counter clockwise 

[banzai510(hainz)]

let it warm up then try it again

 

to me it looks so close but L motors like more advancde like 12  even dough soem say 7-15degs just depending.

 

 

unless you took the dist shaft out and reinstalled it off a tooth where it will be more exact.  Look at mikes fofot on the L motor if you have a screw driver the line would be right side of the top hole and left on the bottom  I call it like 11.25  to me or more 11.30 where almost up and down but not exactly.  but you have thwe photo.

Now if you never fucked with installing the dist /oil pump shaft and was fine before then you did soemthing to the upper part.

I didnt read your whole thread only catching part now.  is there another bolt under the dist plate with maight give more adjust or its a one hole fixed?

 

[datzenmike]

Z20/Z22 is 5 and Z24 is 3

 

 

Well where ever the distributor ends up at the end of the day all you really need is +3 BTDC. Doesn't matter how you get it. 

[banzai510(hainz)]

if this is dual plug can this be swapped Mike?where he put the later FIRE to fire sooner?

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I reversed the distributor cap just now and it got me closer now if I retard all the way I can get it to 20° advanced 

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But I clipped the timing light on a wire from each cylinder and seems like 2and 4 are irregular and 3 is no fire bit it will sit there and idle 

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When the distributor cap is on correctly is the Intake wire above or below the exhaust wire I'll be honest I thought it only went on one way and so didn't pay attention to how it was 

Edited March 26, 2023 by None_zero

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24 minutes ago, banzai510(hainz) said:

let it warm up then try it again

 

to me it looks so close but L motors like more advancde like 12  even dough soem say 7-15degs just depending.

 

 

unless you took the dist shaft out and reinstalled it off a tooth where it will be more exact.  Look at mikes fofot on the L motor if you have a screw driver the line would be right side of the top hole and left on the bottom  I call it like 11.25  to me or more 11.30 where almost up and down but not exactly.  but you have thwe photo.

Now if you never fucked with installing the dist /oil pump shaft and was fine before then you did soemthing to the upper part.

I didnt read your whole thread only catching part now.  is there another bolt under the dist plate with maight give more adjust or its a one hole are you talking about the spindle into the oil pump?

 

[banzai510(hainz)]

you got a manual?

Mike will know

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Yes it's a manual 

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It you're referring to the thing in the picture set to 11:25 yes that is what I was already attempting to correct but if your referring to something higher up in the distributor I want to hear about it 

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20 minutes ago, None_zero said:

When the distributor cap is on correctly is the Intake wire above or below the exhaust wire I'll be honest I thought it only went on one way and so didn't pay attention to how it was 

@datzenmikeyou said it wouldn't start if I reversed the distributor cap but it not only starts it idles both ways what does that mean 

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I started pulling the plugs to check their condition cylinder three exhaust side has liquid oil on it I think 

 

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I guess unturned fuel is more likely 

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Well yes it turns out I did have the cap reversed which I know because I just realized I'd made a handy diagram of it under the hood last year rotate picture counter clockwise 90° for correct orientation 

Edited March 27, 2023 by None_zero

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But the problem is that even with it swapped back it still doesn't seem to be working 

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What's that mark on the housing there for?

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Ok so I had the idea to take the screw put of the fixing plate and see if I can rotate it far enough to get in the right spot just to see if it would work if I'd hit the right tooth. I think that has to be the problem. I missed byba tooth the other way and its too far to hit the needed range. Anyways but when I'm unscrewing the screw from the fixing plate it's throwing little orange sparks??? Why would it do that ? Strangest looking sparks I've ever seen 

Edited March 27, 2023 by None_zero

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I need to be driving this thing by morning so any help Is appreciated 

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1 hour ago, banzai510(hainz) said:

you got a manual?

Mike will know

Oh you mean a manual like a book lol yeah I got the fsm but it doesn't have that much information about this, it just says mark everything install as was but that was the problem originally I pulled the oil pump without realizing you need to mark things and that it had to go back in a very specific way 

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21 minutes ago, None_zero said:

Ok so I had the idea to take the screw put of the fixing plate and see if I can rotate it far enough to get in the right spot just to see if it would work if I'd hit the right tooth. I think that has to be the problem. I missed byba tooth the other way and its too far to hit the needed range. Anyways but when I'm unscrewing the screw from the fixing plate it's throwing little orange sparks??? Why would it do that ? Strangest looking sparks I've ever seen 

Just trying to get this to the bottom Mike tends to over look all but the last one lol

[datzenmike]

 

#1 Intake should be about 9:00 rotor pointing directly forward ti the radiator. #1 Exhaust about 4:30. Stand beside front fender.

 

 

The sparks are because the ignition is on. Coil grounds through the distributor body.

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Turn picture so that blue arrow points away from you. Red arrow intake one, blue arrow exhaust 4, yellow arrow intake 2. That means it was backwards before and it's correct now but with distributor maxed out counter clockwise it's 15 degrees advanced is it going to have screwed anything up to have it idling with the cap installed backwards? Or am I just a tooth too far forward now 

Edited March 27, 2023 by None_zero

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Welp, I redid the spindle and hit the right tooth finally but it's still running terribly it says it's at 5° but I can't be sure of the rpms to set it and when I tried to test drive it it felt like a caterpillar in the engine it feels like everything is out of wack.. I don't know what to do with it. Maybe i should be more specific about the caterpillar... it feels like a wave of vibration rolling though it as it runs in like vruuuuh vruuuh vruuuuuuh don't know how else to describe it.

Edited March 27, 2023 by None_zero

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The upside? I'm back in the middle of the adjustment range. The downside there's no way I can drive it as is.