Rollover_Red Posted May 20, 2013 Report Share Posted May 20, 2013 do i use the z22 studs or the L-series studs? Quote Link to comment
metalmonkey47 Posted May 20, 2013 Report Share Posted May 20, 2013 Using an L head? Seems like you should use L studs. Quote Link to comment
Rollover_Red Posted May 20, 2013 Author Report Share Posted May 20, 2013 Using an L head? Seems like you should use L studs. yeah w53. i tried putting L24 Arp studs on the z22 block and maybe a thread and a half were showing from the block side, so i wasnt sure if that was ok. Quote Link to comment
Z-train Posted May 21, 2013 Report Share Posted May 21, 2013 ARP part number 202-4201 Quote Link to comment
Rollover_Red Posted May 21, 2013 Author Report Share Posted May 21, 2013 ARP part number 202-4201 ok, what is the difference between the l24 head studs VS the l20b head studs? probably a stupid question, i just want to know if the l20b ones are shorter/longer. Quote Link to comment
Z-train Posted May 21, 2013 Report Share Posted May 21, 2013 Length* & number of studs. * length difference between studs in the same kit NOT between L-20B & L-24.Length difference is account of some run thru the cam stands and others don't. Quote Link to comment
Rollover_Red Posted May 21, 2013 Author Report Share Posted May 21, 2013 the only reason why i ask is because we(skib and I) have a spare set of ARP studs for an l24 and was just curious if they would work. thank you again. Quote Link to comment
Rollover_Red Posted May 21, 2013 Author Report Share Posted May 21, 2013 ok so i counted the number of studs that go through the cam retainer in my w53 and there are only 4 studs that go through. there are 5 in the l24 kit. Quote Link to comment
wayno Posted May 21, 2013 Report Share Posted May 21, 2013 ARP part number 202-4201 This is the best thing I ever bought for myself, I finally quit blowing head gaskets on my LZ23, I freaking hated making head gaskets for this engine, after about 3 of them, you just get tired. 1 Quote Link to comment
Rollover_Red Posted May 21, 2013 Author Report Share Posted May 21, 2013 so do you guys think the l24 ones will be fine? they seem like the same length as the l20b ones..... Quote Link to comment
Farmer Joe Posted May 21, 2013 Report Share Posted May 21, 2013 i would think so.. i dont think there are ones that are longer than others, right? mock up the head on the block with no HG and see if the hardware will work.. Quote Link to comment
Rollover_Red Posted May 22, 2013 Author Report Share Posted May 22, 2013 i would think so.. i dont think there are ones that are longer than others, right? mock up the head on the block with no HG and see if the hardware will work.. there are 4 studs that go through the cam retainer. they have to be able an extra 1/2" longer due to that. soo far it looks like they will wont. only one way to really find out, and that will be to get motor completely together and run it..... give me about a month Quote Link to comment
Stoffregen Motorsports Posted May 22, 2013 Report Share Posted May 22, 2013 L motors all use the same length bolts, so if you have a set of studs for a L6 you certainly have enough studs to use on an L4. I have never been a big fan of studs though, they make head removal/installation a bitch. And you really don't even need them, unless you're running a million pounds of turbo boost. Even a full tilt race engine can use OEM bolts. I think having the block o-ringed would be money better spent. Quote Link to comment
Z-train Posted May 22, 2013 Report Share Posted May 22, 2013 O-ringing is point-less except on upper end boosted apps.Yes,you can use head bolts.But to buy new ones for MORE than the ARP studs?You're wacked. Quote Link to comment
Rollover_Red Posted May 22, 2013 Author Report Share Posted May 22, 2013 L motors all use the same length bolts, so if you have a set of studs for a L6 you certainly have enough studs to use on an L4. I have never been a big fan of studs though, they make head removal/installation a bitch. And you really don't even need them, unless you're running a million pounds of turbo boost. Even a full tilt race engine can use OEM bolts. I think having the block o-ringed would be money better spent. well the main reason is because we have some here at the shop, and when i removed the studs from the L16, one of the studs snapped and also 2 others started giving me problems. so i figured, why not? Quote Link to comment
Stoffregen Motorsports Posted May 23, 2013 Report Share Posted May 23, 2013 If you have 'em, use 'em. And use a factory Nissan head gasket. Quote Link to comment
Sealik Posted May 23, 2013 Report Share Posted May 23, 2013 And use a factory Nissan head gasket. Just use the Felpro 9210 PT-1 HG and drill out those 9 holes...<...LZ Quote Link to comment
Rollover_Red Posted May 24, 2013 Author Report Share Posted May 24, 2013 Just use the Felpro 9210 PT-1 HG and drill out those 9 holes...<...LZ so no drilling of the block necessary.....? Quote Link to comment
Rollover_Red Posted May 24, 2013 Author Report Share Posted May 24, 2013 also this is for the z24, correct? Quote Link to comment
Sealik Posted May 24, 2013 Report Share Posted May 24, 2013 so no drilling of the block necessary.....? Drilling (7 - 1/4"holes) is necessary to keep the cylinder walls at an even temp, Should be 8...but one is already drilled in at the factory. If not... there will be wear on one side of the pistons after a few thousand miles . I used a laminate trimmer to cut the 2 holes out at the back of the HG...lol Made a jig to drill out the rest....HG doesn't blow out when it's sandwiched between 2 pieces of wood Total of 9 holes When I drilled the holes in the block, I matched the positions with the larger part of the tear drops (coolant passages) in the L head. This enabled the 2 holes per cylinder a little farther apart from each other.....which led to a little more 'meat' on each side of the hole relative to the cylinder wall and edge of deck/block. For reference......NGF HG 3 Quote Link to comment
Rollover_Red Posted May 27, 2013 Author Report Share Posted May 27, 2013 looks like fun! hahahah not looking forward to this........ ok maybe just a little........... Quote Link to comment
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