Naco1 Posted August 17, 2012 Report Share Posted August 17, 2012 Whats up rrratsun. I'm trying to throw in my hooker long tube header in the 620. I've read on this forum that it's a B*%&! To put in. It looks like the torsion bar is in the way, now I've twisted and turned this hooker every which way and it just won't go in. Anyone have any advice? Cut the flange maybe? Thanks guys Quote Link to comment
metalmonkey47 Posted August 17, 2012 Report Share Posted August 17, 2012 My advice: Don't do it. Long tube headers were designed for cars. If you ditch the torsion bar all together, it might fit, but you'll have no suspension. The trucks need a shorty header, where the exhaust can be run between the torsion bar and the frame without hitting each other. Quote Link to comment
Radim Posted August 17, 2012 Report Share Posted August 17, 2012 I ran a hooker comp header on my truck, ended up cutting it into pieces when i replaced it with an early L16 exhaust manifold. I've got like a two finger gap in the front (205/55/15) and couldn't go any lower becuase of the header..... so i chopped it up.. What you may have is a header for a 510 or a 720 4x4, the headers for 620s have to "hug" the block to clear the torsion. Quote Link to comment
Naco1 Posted August 17, 2012 Author Report Share Posted August 17, 2012 The super comp header was free with the truck so I wanted to put it in. But now I'm having second thoughts. We're going to try to fit it. I'll try to get some pictures up. Thanks guys Quote Link to comment
Radim Posted August 17, 2012 Report Share Posted August 17, 2012 The metal on those headers are pretty thin too, so it'll resonate bad and be pretty damn loud.... atleast mine was. 1 Quote Link to comment
metalmonkey47 Posted August 17, 2012 Report Share Posted August 17, 2012 iMO, trade it for a shorty. Isn't hard. Long tubes are great on 510's. I managed to trade mine for 2 shortys. Gave one away, or I'd give it to you. Quote Link to comment
pharouh Posted August 17, 2012 Report Share Posted August 17, 2012 OK,we're talking a lot of years ago (late 70's) but I put a header on my 620 I had then. I believe it was a short tube-don't remember who made it. BUT, i had to jack it up,and take the torsion bar loose and slide it back out of the way,as per the instructions that came with it. I tried to put it on without doing that,and there was no way it was going to fit. bolted it on,put the bar back-bingo! It fit great. Quote Link to comment
Dawa Posted August 17, 2012 Report Share Posted August 17, 2012 were you looking specifically for a hooker header or could it be made by another company Quote Link to comment
datzenmike Posted August 17, 2012 Report Share Posted August 17, 2012 OK,we're talking a lot of years ago (late 70's) but I put a header on my 620 I had then. I believe it was a short tube-don't remember who made it. BUT, i had to jack it up,and take the torsion bar loose and slide it back out of the way,as per the instructions that came with it. I tried to put it on without doing that,and there was no way it was going to fit. bolted it on,put the bar back-bingo! It fit great. ME TOO!!! but it was a 521. Motor mount off, jack motor over, remove torsion bar... ended up heating it and bending to get a fit. Leaked, flange gasket needed replacing every three months (loose bolts), was loud. Could have lived with this but did not run any better. What a waste of $80 back then. Is it any wonder I go on a three paragraph rant about/against them including pictures. Never will I ever ever ever run a header again. Quote Link to comment
Farmer Joe Posted August 18, 2012 Report Share Posted August 18, 2012 same story here, man... put that header on craigslist and get a few dollars out of it.. either get an L16 manifold, or a shorty.. i agree with mike, ill never run a header again. Quote Link to comment
Dudeman Posted August 18, 2012 Report Share Posted August 18, 2012 I have a cheap long-tube header on my L20b that is constantly blowing gaskets, even after spending five hours on it with a flat file and a straight edge. I also have a hooker long-tube header for the A87 head I'm building which seems more substantial, but I'm leery of running it too due to past experiences. That header is also stuck in a different truck and will not be coming out before the engine, so I'm thinking about an L16 mani. Does this, in anyone's experience, restrict flow on a performance build? 2.0+ liters, SU's, big ports and valves and a mild-ish cam... And a couple pics cause everyone likes those... Quote Link to comment
Ratty260z Posted August 18, 2012 Report Share Posted August 18, 2012 I built a header from scratch for my Honda CVCC and it's been doing great much better then the huge pumpkin shaped thing that was bolted up before, I would say chop it up and make it work if you want it, worst that could happen is you have to use a stock manifold, Building headers is fun. :D I've had a MSA header on my 260z as well and it never gave me any issues, Made decent power with all that I had done to the motor as well. Quote Link to comment
banzai510(hainz) Posted August 18, 2012 Report Share Posted August 18, 2012 dudeman. the early l16 non injector type is fine. you just need to make a Y pipe that feeds to a 2inch collector. If truck key is the tersion bar routing. Only other opetion is the short tube header from Top End Performance. I hqve one that I had ceramic coated as the blk pain they pu on is CHEAP!!!!!!!!!!!! so youll spend over 225$ to get this + welding up a exhaust. I persoanlly run a 1.75 in on my 510. I cant remeber but the later 620 had a bug dpwnpipe siza anyway. Unfortunaly the exhaust manifold it hard to get the lower bolts and I hate them!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Frank in Everett(425 280 4747) might have a the early manifolds or Carter(425 275 7746) M klotz make the exhaust manifold flanges also to make the new y pipes if needed Lontube header on trucks? Take them to get recycled. Just because they free dont mean your getting a deal. Like getting a FREE Fiat car. I life of misery!!!!!!!!!! get the manifold and bolt the y pipe on and get them ceramic coated as 1 pc as its cheaper. Quote Link to comment
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