Stubby Posted October 20, 2011 Report Share Posted October 20, 2011 Alright, I am sure there is information everywhere about this, but in my laziness I have no time to search for it. I have a front coilover set up ready to go. My question is for the rear. I bought an extra set used leaf springs and a pair of two inch blocks. From my understanding I can add a leaf spring and just flip it to flatten the complete leaf set out. I am also under the impression that I can use the 2 inch blocks and add an additional leaf to stiffen the rear. I like the second option, but I am not sure where to get the small silver dollar looking spacers that go in between the leafs. I am also in need of u-bolts for the blocks. You help is appreciated. 1 Quote Link to comment
banzai510(hainz) Posted October 20, 2011 Report Share Posted October 20, 2011 Belltech makes blocks and comes with U bolts about 35dollars Quote Link to comment
DRIVEN Posted October 20, 2011 Report Share Posted October 20, 2011 I've dropped cars both ways. I prefer the leaf shuffle method. My wagon already had 2" blocks in it when I got it or I would have done it. You can really dial the ride height and the only cost is 2 new bolts and your time. I think it's a cleaner look and more stable when done. Blocks work ok and are quicker but I just prefer the other method. Quote Link to comment
Stubby Posted October 20, 2011 Author Report Share Posted October 20, 2011 I already have 2" blocks, are you saying that I can get the u-bolts from belltech. Are the datsun specific or do I need to order the u-bolts from a different make and model?? Quote Link to comment
datzenmike Posted October 20, 2011 Report Share Posted October 20, 2011 As far as U bolts anything will do as long as the width fits the width of the axle tube, so just measure that and the length. I measured the stock length and added 2" for the block. I don't think it's a good idea to just simply flip the leaf spring over. I believe the spring should be dismantled and re-stacked with the long spring on top and the other leaves in descending lengths below it. This will better support the vehicle weight. Here's my reasoning... If you simply flip the spring, the long one with the mounts supports the weight. The shorter ones stacked above it are not realyl supporting any weight... they are simply clamped to the top spring with straps in a few places. On a severe bottoming out these straps won't hold against the vehicle weight. They never were intended for this. Better to re-stack them properly Quote Link to comment
Stubby Posted October 21, 2011 Author Report Share Posted October 21, 2011 As far as U bolts anything will do as long as the width fits the width of the axle tube, so just measure that and the length. I measured the stock length and added 2" for the block. I don't think it's a good idea to just simply flip the leaf spring over. I believe the spring should be dismantled and re-stacked with the long spring on top and the other leaves in descending lengths below it. This will better support the vehicle weight. Here's my reasoning... If you simply flip the spring, the long one with the mounts supports the weight. The shorter ones stacked above it are not realyl supporting any weight... they are simply clamped to the top spring with straps in a few places. On a severe bottoming out these straps won't hold against the vehicle weight. They never were intended for this. Better to re-stack them properly Yeah, I was just going to flip the load bearing leaf. I believe this to be the smaller top leaf in the spring pack. But where can I find the bushing for between the leafs. Is there a part number for these bushings. Quote Link to comment
Guest kamakazi620 Posted October 22, 2011 Report Share Posted October 22, 2011 Yeah, I was just going to flip the load bearing leaf. I believe this to be the smaller top leaf in the spring pack. But where can I find the bushing for between the leafs. Is there a part number for these bushings. Just do an IRS like this! http://community.ratsun.net/topic/12856-68-wagoon-of-doom/page__p__171586__hl__doom__fromsearch__1#entry171586 Quote Link to comment
Stupid_fast Posted October 26, 2011 Report Share Posted October 26, 2011 Just do an IRS like this! http://community.rat...__1#entry171586 Question is... Will it drift? I want to do this badly... I'm hoping to start taking some welding classes soon. Quote Link to comment
Laecaon Posted October 26, 2011 Report Share Posted October 26, 2011 I want IRS too, but to do that much work for IRS on a wagon, might as well go with fitting in 240sx IRS. Quote Link to comment
Stupid_fast Posted October 26, 2011 Report Share Posted October 26, 2011 @laecaon, That's a good point ... I wonder if there are any disadvantages? is it 4 lug? Definitely would want 4 lug. Quote Link to comment
Laecaon Posted October 27, 2011 Report Share Posted October 27, 2011 s13 240sx is 4x114.3 like our dattos. Quote Link to comment
Stubby Posted November 28, 2011 Author Report Share Posted November 28, 2011 Pic as promised. I will add more pics maybe tomorrow. This is all I have. Front coilovers with tokico HP shocks and T3 Camber plates. Rears are 2 inch blocks with Monroe Air Shocks Quote Link to comment
Guest kamakazi620 Posted November 30, 2011 Report Share Posted November 30, 2011 @laecaon, That's a good point ... I wonder if there are any disadvantages? is it 4 lug? Definitely would want 4 lug. All datsun/nissan RWD are 4x114 later 240sx were 5 lug DO WORK MAN!!!!!!!! and as jeff (builder of Wagoon of doom) says its not that hard to install Quote Link to comment
hang_510 Posted December 2, 2011 Report Share Posted December 2, 2011 Yeah, I was just going to flip the load bearing leaf. I believe this to be the smaller top leaf in the spring pack. But where can I find the bushing for between the leafs. Is there a part number for these bushings. i'm too lazy to look for the Dime Quarterly article about flipping the third leaf for you. IIRC ~1.25" drop alone and stiffer. i found some 1.75' blocks for mine. there are part numbers for everything! Quote Link to comment
Laecaon Posted December 2, 2011 Report Share Posted December 2, 2011 3rd leaf? I did 4th... which is the overload spring. And what bushing? This is overload spring flipped, no blocks. Quote Link to comment
izzo Posted December 2, 2011 Report Share Posted December 2, 2011 3rd leaf? I did 4th... which is the overload spring. And what bushing? This is overload spring flipped, no blocks. 1 Quote Link to comment
hang_510 Posted December 2, 2011 Report Share Posted December 2, 2011 3rd leaf? I did 4th... which is the overload spring. the OP has an extra set, the 3rd leaf is added from it, and flipped. Quote Link to comment
Stubby Posted December 5, 2011 Author Report Share Posted December 5, 2011 I read in the Dime Quarterly issue that if you don't put brass/poly spacers between the flipped spring it will eventually start wearing away at the spring. They are little pucks I believe. Quote Link to comment
Stubby Posted December 13, 2011 Author Report Share Posted December 13, 2011 Here are some more pics of the wagon. Again it just has a 2" block in the back, but I am using the monroe air shocks at 30psi of air. It raise it up a little when I pumped some air in it. I am planning to do the spring flip also to lower it another inch. I realize I am going to have to do something with the drive shaft tunnel. So, I have some work ahead of me. Until then I am going to raise the front up a little to give it a little more even look. Quote Link to comment
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