CorAce Posted February 26, 2011 Report Share Posted February 26, 2011 I just installed a new set of Tokico Illumina's in my ZX struts, and as I was taking it apart I noticed that the strut shafts on the cartridges coming out had a small amount of dust and grit on them. now wanting to get the most life out of my investment. I was wondering how susceptible the shaft seals are to this type of environment. Are bellows a must have or am I being over protective? Quote Link to comment
ggzilla Posted February 26, 2011 Report Share Posted February 26, 2011 Good question: * Nissan didn't fit bellow and they last around 100,000 miles * Offroad rally racers sometimes fit them. Quote Link to comment
thisismatt Posted February 26, 2011 Report Share Posted February 26, 2011 Good question: * Nissan didn't fit bellow and they last around 100,000 miles * Offroad rally racers sometimes fit them. Nissan did fit bellows. Good offroad shocks get rebuilt fairly often. I think they're a good idea and for not much money, cheap insurance: http://www.partstrain.com/ShopByDepartment/Struts/NISSAN/280ZX Quote Link to comment
littlejason Posted February 26, 2011 Report Share Posted February 26, 2011 I've been thinking about this kind of stuff lately too. I was thinking Toyota-style: the bump stop incorporates a dust shield thing. A compromise, but something to think about. I went to the dump but it's too hard to take apart the strut with the car off the ground, so I gave up. Quote Link to comment
ggzilla Posted February 27, 2011 Report Share Posted February 27, 2011 Yes, some struts have bellow, but most Datsun didn't Quote Link to comment
thisismatt Posted February 27, 2011 Report Share Posted February 27, 2011 Yes, some struts have bellow, but most Datsun didn't Not trying to be argumentative, but...210, 510, 280zx, 300zx, 710, 810, 200sx, 240/260/280z...they all did, and more I'm sure. I think the 1200 & B210 (others?) just had an upside down cup/boot that covered the strut rod, but along the same lines. I think you're just used to seeing 40 year old struts where they've disintegrated and fallen off, or been removed by previous owners because they were torn or not put back on when inserts were changed. Quote Link to comment
blownb310 Posted December 20, 2011 Report Share Posted December 20, 2011 Yes, my '81 B310 has rubber shields that are sandwiched on top of the coil spring. I can't really call them a bellows as they are smooth sided. But they serve the same function. One of them is disintegrating and I can't seem to buy them. I will likely adapt one from an old Sentra. I found a new pair of old stock Koni adjustable inserts for my B310 struts. Nice! Mike Quote Link to comment
datzenmike Posted December 20, 2011 Report Share Posted December 20, 2011 My '84 Max goon and 710 struts Quote Link to comment
ggzilla Posted December 20, 2011 Report Share Posted December 20, 2011 I stand corrected. Thanks. I still think the bellows are not critical since not all cars have them. Quote Link to comment
mike Posted December 27, 2011 Report Share Posted December 27, 2011 Depending on the climate and where you drive (if its in sand or high salt/high humidity areas...) a bellows will trap sand, grime and moisture along shock/strut which will wear out the seal about as fast (and sometimes faster) than not running a bellows. All the aftermarket bellows Ive seen are just some worthless crap that are only good for aesthetics anyways, they never stay attached to the shock tube. My opinion is that youre better off just running a bare strut/shock and keeping the undercarriage clean... At least you can see what is going on without having to take anything apart. Quote Link to comment
datzenmike Posted December 27, 2011 Report Share Posted December 27, 2011 The factory covers keep direct spray and sand out. It's only when they get old or split that they actually hold it in. They work and protect the strut from stone strikes too.. Quote Link to comment
afbrian13 Posted December 31, 2011 Report Share Posted December 31, 2011 For the record, my 76 and 78 280z's had them, cracked and broken, but there. Quote Link to comment
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