Master-O-Turbonics Posted February 10, 2012 Author Report Share Posted February 10, 2012 Unless his control arms point down (ball joint end lower than inside pick-up point, which seems unlikely at this ride height) then his camber will go more positive under compression. That, and he was talking about problems driving straight at freeway speeds. ;) LOL... I did flip the Balljoint onto the other side of the control arm for better camber gain..... its all getting done right this time... patience. LOL I swapped the struts out to get the car running and wasn't too concerned about geometry at the time. At the time 35mpg>19mpg and at 600++ miles a week that was a BIG difference especially with $0 of income(at the time) LOL Quote Link to comment
Master-O-Turbonics Posted February 10, 2012 Author Report Share Posted February 10, 2012 But will have a great contact patch when cornering. Have you seen how much a 210 wheel tucks under while cornering? Just don't put stiff anti-sway bars on it. Thats S30 Z car struts on this 210... Big brakes and all...... Thus the camber issues. Quote Link to comment
ggzilla Posted February 10, 2012 Report Share Posted February 10, 2012 Yes, camber goes more positive during compression. So to counteract that, start with more negative like the car in the photo. Quote Link to comment
Master-O-Turbonics Posted February 10, 2012 Author Report Share Posted February 10, 2012 Yes, camber goes more positive during compression. So to counteract that, start with more negative like the car in the photo. I think you have that backwards.. LOL top edge out is positive, top edge tucking in is negative. Let me tell ya.... the toyota solid rotor brakes are well enough to throw you way into the windshield of a 210! Quote Link to comment
ggzilla Posted February 10, 2012 Report Share Posted February 10, 2012 Yes...top edge tucking in is negative... like the car in the photo. What are you trying to say? Quote Link to comment
datsunfreak Posted February 10, 2012 Report Share Posted February 10, 2012 Thats S30 Z car struts on this 210... Big brakes and all...... Thus the camber issues. Any plan to fix that? If so, how? Longer control arms? I'm contemplating just using the entire S30 front suspension in my 210, struts, control arms, and crossmember. Quote Link to comment
datsunfreak Posted February 10, 2012 Report Share Posted February 10, 2012 Yes...top edge tucking in is negative... like the car in the photo. What are you trying to say? What are you trying to say? His tires are NOT tucking in at the top. In any photo. :P I think it's time for an eye test Dave... ;) Quote Link to comment
ggzilla Posted February 10, 2012 Report Share Posted February 10, 2012 Isn't this tucking in at the top of the tire? Looks like it to me. Or maybe it's just camera distortion ... Quote Link to comment
ggzilla Posted February 10, 2012 Report Share Posted February 10, 2012 I missed the part about "front" ... yes, the front looks stock camber. Why does the back have negative camber? Must be some kind of crossbred 210. Quote Link to comment
Master-O-Turbonics Posted February 10, 2012 Author Report Share Posted February 10, 2012 Isn't this tucking in at the top of the tire? Looks like it to me. Or maybe it's just camera distortion ... solid axle.... 0 degrees of camber. Quote Link to comment
Master-O-Turbonics Posted February 10, 2012 Author Report Share Posted February 10, 2012 Any plan to fix that? If so, how? Longer control arms? I'm contemplating just using the entire S30 front suspension in my 210, struts, control arms, and crossmember. Not going to divulge my secrets....yet. :-P Quote Link to comment
datsunfreak Posted February 10, 2012 Report Share Posted February 10, 2012 Not going to divulge my secrets....yet. :-P Understood. :cool: I missed the part about "front" ... yes, the front looks stock camber. You are losin' it... :P Quote Link to comment
Zfighter76 Posted February 10, 2012 Report Share Posted February 10, 2012 what is the axle just straight bolted to the wheel and sitting on the ground letting is have camber or did you pull the fenders or something???? Quote Link to comment
datsunfreak Posted February 10, 2012 Report Share Posted February 10, 2012 Guessing in that pic there are no rear springs. :cool: Quote Link to comment
Master-O-Turbonics Posted March 29, 2012 Author Report Share Posted March 29, 2012 what is the axle just straight bolted to the wheel and sitting on the ground letting is have camber or did you pull the fenders or something???? THERE IS 0 CAMBER! Must be the angle of the pic or lens..... LOL these datsun solid axles have no camber lol Quote Link to comment
Master-O-Turbonics Posted March 29, 2012 Author Report Share Posted March 29, 2012 Guessing in that pic there are no rear springs. Yep. :-) Quote Link to comment
Master-O-Turbonics Posted March 29, 2012 Author Report Share Posted March 29, 2012 I missed the part about "front" ... yes, the front looks stock camber. Why does the back have negative camber? Must be some kind of crossbred 210. Front camber is NOT stock. It is like 2 degrees in the POSITIVE(bad LOL) but I HAD to get new brakes and my S30 stuff was brand new and I wasn't about to spend the cash on tiny 210 brakes. Its S30 Z car struts with 510 ball joints(different taper size, but same bolt pattern as the stock 210 LCA.) and with some unknown short spindle steering arm that is wicked quick on the steering. Quote Link to comment
izzo Posted March 29, 2012 Report Share Posted March 29, 2012 If you look at the pic you can clearly see that the camera is not level. look at the garage door lol Quote Link to comment
datsunfreak Posted March 29, 2012 Report Share Posted March 29, 2012 Front camber is NOT stock. It is like 2 degrees in the POSITIVE(bad LOL) but I HAD to get new brakes and my S30 stuff was brand new and I wasn't about to spend the cash on tiny 210 brakes. I may bail on the S30 suspension idea. Looks like I'd need to lengthen the control arms at least 1 inch per side to get it back to the right camber? Assuming I have room with the flares to gain 2+ inches of track width, I may still do it. Still curious to see how you're going to fix it. B) Quote Link to comment
Master-O-Turbonics Posted March 29, 2012 Author Report Share Posted March 29, 2012 I may bail on the S30 suspension idea. Looks like I'd need to lengthen the control arms at least 1 inch per side to get it back to the right camber? Assuming I have room with the flares to gain 2+ inches of track width, I may still do it. Still curious to see how you're going to fix it. B) I'd probably move the strut towers before widening the track.... my (future) wheel tire combo is going to be plenty wide anyways lol. Quote Link to comment
datsunfreak Posted March 30, 2012 Report Share Posted March 30, 2012 I'd probably move the strut towers before widening the track.... I've done some crazy stuff, but that's too far even for me... ^_^ Quote Link to comment
Master-O-Turbonics Posted April 3, 2012 Author Report Share Posted April 3, 2012 I've done some crazy stuff, but that's too far even for me... ^_^ I've seen a couple old Datsun SCCA race cars that had the strut towers moved for more caster and to add a little room for more upward shock travel. Quote Link to comment
datsunfreak Posted April 4, 2012 Report Share Posted April 4, 2012 What's your trepidation with widening the track (aka lengthening the control arms)? I can see if you want deep dish wheels without flares being hesitant to do it, but otherwise... Quote Link to comment
dukerollo Posted January 6, 2015 Report Share Posted January 6, 2015 Digging up an old thread, but did this ever get anywhere? Seemed to have a ton of potential. Quote Link to comment
metalmonkey47 Posted January 12, 2015 Report Share Posted January 12, 2015 Digging up an old thread, but did this ever get anywhere? Seemed to have a ton of potential. Yeah, it went to a new owner. I bought the big cam LZ22 that was supposed to go in it and we stuffed it into my 620, then this car went to a new owner who put a Chevy V6 in it or something. Doubt OP even remembers he made this thread. Quote Link to comment
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