matwood Posted May 25, 2010 Report Share Posted May 25, 2010 Alright guys, I've got a plan... I stole this picture from HRH, It is the bearing that every 510 steering box needs 2 of. In my troublesome search, I have come up with a source for these bearings, in Ukraine. They have given me a quote... Dear Madison, Thank you for your enquiry, we are pleased to offer as follows: VTAA19Z-3 (NSK) - 2 pcs. - 9,50 EURO / pc. ex stock (0,065 kg/pc. net weight) + Administration costs: 12,00 EUR Terms of payment: bank transfer in advance according to proforma invoice Subject to prior sales Carriage cost to USA: FedEx Parcel (ab. 5 workdays), euro: 55,00 TNT Express (ab. 4 workdays), euro: 67,00 We can also dispatch via TNT or DHL on your account (maybe you will have a better offer). With the best regards, Elena I was wondering if any of you guys would be willing to pitch in on a couple pieces to get all of our costs down, the shipping and everything is the killer but they are willing to ship a bunch at this price. If I were to charge just enough to give each of us an equal share of the shipping and "administrative costs" then we would all make it out on top. This is your chance to get this elusive bearing in 4-5 days rather than waiting the 8 weeks that HRH had to. LET ME KNOW QUICKLY GUYS, I PLAN ON ORDERING WITHIN A WEEK!!! Link to comment
metalmonkey47 Posted May 25, 2010 Report Share Posted May 25, 2010 Do you know if this is the same bearing that the 210 uses? I've been thinking about doing some work on the steering box. Link to comment
Chris#51EPGraham Posted May 25, 2010 Report Share Posted May 25, 2010 You've got an ID number written down off the bearing shell, right? Try MSC industrial supply or Fleet Industries - they're both very user friendly for non-business customers and have vast selections of bearings. Google either of them and then use their catalog search engines. Searching things like bearing #s directly on Google tends to lead to places like Ukraine or China or the Thomas's Register or the bearing manufacturers themselves (who don't sell to the GP). If the bearing came from the box in the photo, it's NSK, a Japanese company. It's an oddball type of bearing, but not so odd that you have nowhere else to get it but the Ukraine. The message you recieved from them has the distinct ring of the ubiquitous Nigerian scam with it's overly formal and flattering tone. I have a hunch the site you found is a Nigerian fabrication. Link to comment
matwood Posted May 25, 2010 Author Report Share Posted May 25, 2010 Do you know if this is the same bearing that the 210 uses? I've been thinking about doing some work on the steering box. I do NOT know if it is the same. The steering box looks much different but that doesn't necessarily mean that they don't have the same bearings. See what you can do about getting an exploded view of the 210 box and we can compare.. You've got an ID number written down off the bearing shell, right? Try MSC industrial supply or Fleet Industries - they're both very user friendly for non-business customers and have vast selections of bearings. Google either of them and then use their catalog search engines. Searching things like bearing #s directly on Google tends to lead to places like Ukraine or China or the Thomas's Register or the bearing manufacturers themselves (who don't sell to the GP). If the bearing came from the box in the photo, it's NSK, a Japanese company. It's an oddball type of bearing, but not so odd that you have nowhere else to get it but the Ukraine. The message you recieved from them has the distinct ring of the ubiquitous Nigerian scam with it's overly formal and flattering tone. I have a hunch the site you found is a Nigerian fabrication. I appreciate the input. I am going to a local shop today to see what they can do about sourcing something. Also, I cannot seem to find 'Angular contact bearings' on the sites you mentioned that are anywhere near similar to the one in question. Any more input, guys? Link to comment
Chris#51EPGraham Posted May 25, 2010 Report Share Posted May 25, 2010 That is an odd looking bearing, but I can't see it clearly through the bag it's in. I would really advise you to to take your box apart and look at the bearing ID number that's actually in there. Nissan changed some things repeatedly, used multiple suppliers and used different specs in different markets that got re-exported everywhere. The Haynes manual calls it a needle bearing, which is not an angular contact bearing at all. For those reasons, shop manual info alone isn't a reliable way to get the right parts. Getting a spare box to rebuild would be really handy. The term 'angular contact' usually refers to a few different types of ball bearing with an assymetrical cross section designed to take heavy thrust loads in one direction combined with heavy radial loads. Some of them look like common symmetrical section BB's and others can be more unusual looking. Link to comment
flyerdan Posted May 25, 2010 Report Share Posted May 25, 2010 That bearing should be available through a good supplier, like Applied Technologies or McGuire Bearing. They might not have it in stock, but they can get it, and won't roger you on the shipping. Link to comment
elmerfudpucker Posted May 25, 2010 Report Share Posted May 25, 2010 I live 5 min away from TacomaScrew they carry everything in fasteners and bearings, PM me the important #'s and I will check for you. Link to comment
zerow Posted May 25, 2010 Report Share Posted May 25, 2010 Here is a link I found for the bearing dimensions. Possible cross reference based on dimensions?? http://www.noc.ua/en/online-catalog-bearings/232-itemdescription.html?bearing=38113364784a05437c&title=VTAA19Z-3&key=592 Link to comment
sssr20det510 Posted May 25, 2010 Report Share Posted May 25, 2010 Dosent datsport sell rebuilt steering boxes? If so u may contact them about the bearings Link to comment
datzenmike Posted May 26, 2010 Report Share Posted May 26, 2010 Do you know if this is the same bearing that the 210 uses? I've been thinking about doing some work on the steering box. 510 and 610 and B-210 use the same bearing number 48190 21000 Link to comment
Chris#51EPGraham Posted May 26, 2010 Report Share Posted May 26, 2010 510 and 610 and B-210 use the same bearing number 48190 21000 That's what he needs...you've rebuilt them all before. I just don't have time to take a spare one apart to follow my own advice and have never rebuilt one myself. Link to comment
matwood Posted May 26, 2010 Author Report Share Posted May 26, 2010 For the important numbers, taken from the site that zerow lists.... Fw = 19.2mm (~diameter of sector shaft) Height = 9.5mm (thickness??) D = 41mm (outer diameter) D1 = 27mm (??smaller diameter) As for datsport, I'm not sure... will check today! Elmer, I would really appreciate a check at the local supply, thanks man! NSK part number is VTAA19Z-3. Link to comment
datzenmike Posted May 26, 2010 Report Share Posted May 26, 2010 Can't see these bearings being that worn out. The big wear is on the main gears and there's no fix for that. To a point you can adjust them closer together to remove some slop but the wear isn't even, being more worn in the middle straight ahead position. If you adjust closer here it may be too tight at full turn and be way too tight! Not good at all. Link to comment
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