debbheff@gmail.com Posted March 18, 2021 Report Share Posted March 18, 2021 Here we go again, this time front brake hoses. Again, i've done numerous searches and can't find the right brake hoses for the front. I find all sorts of hoses that indicate they are for the front of a 521 but none have the correct banjo fitting that attaches to the wheel cylinder. It had been a while since i had taken the fronts apart so i bought hoses I thought would fit and started installing them and saw there would be no place to bleed the brakes. Found my old wheel cylinders and hoses and discovered the fitting attached to the wheel cylinder is some funky looking banjo fitting with the bleed screw attached bolt that holds it to wheel cylinder. I searched thru hoses at my local parts dealer and came up with a hose with a banjo end that appeared to maybe work but it would require stacking three copper seals to get the distance required for the brake fluid holes to line up. So, does anyone know where to get the correct banjo end brake hoses OR what have you done to come up with a workable alternative. Thanks as always DH Quote Link to comment
mainer311 Posted March 18, 2021 Report Share Posted March 18, 2021 Didn’t the “banjo” bracket bolt directly to the back of the front wheel cylinder, and then the hose just threads into the side of it using an inverted flare fitting? That’s what I remember, and also what car parts manual shows. Can you post pictures of your current setup? 1 Quote Link to comment
debbheff@gmail.com Posted March 18, 2021 Author Report Share Posted March 18, 2021 on this truck there is the banjo fitting at the end of the brake hose, a hollow bolt to carry brake fluid hat fits thru the banjo and threads into the wheel cylinder. the bolt has an open end where the bleeder screw fits. a sort of mdcf of a setup but it apparently worked except for the part where parts are nla. 1 Quote Link to comment
debbheff@gmail.com Posted March 19, 2021 Author Report Share Posted March 19, 2021 Checked my Chilton Foreign Car Repair Manual, French, British, Japanese Cars, vol II and it shows similar setup as mine, the hollow bolt is referred to as a connector bolt. In Chilton this particular application is for a 520, the 521 although the model is included in this manual. 1 Quote Link to comment
mainer311 Posted March 19, 2021 Report Share Posted March 19, 2021 I can picture exactly what you’re saying. Are you sure the hose isn’t detachable from the piece that the bolt goes through? 1 Quote Link to comment
debbheff@gmail.com Posted March 19, 2021 Author Report Share Posted March 19, 2021 yep this piece has been put together so it cant be disassembled. I'll look for a suitable replacement that can be fitted without stacking washers etc. anyone out there with knowledge of a good replacement let me know. 1 Quote Link to comment
debbheff@gmail.com Posted March 19, 2021 Author Report Share Posted March 19, 2021 As it turns out, i looked at the end of the banjo fitting and sure enough the end of the hose had a hex end that appeared to be removable. after application of freeall and heat the hose end detached from the banjo end. looks like those hoses indicated to fit the 521 do actually work. thanks again DH 2 Quote Link to comment
d.p Posted March 19, 2021 Report Share Posted March 19, 2021 14 hours ago, debbheff@gmail.com said: As it turns out, i looked at the end of the banjo fitting and sure enough the end of the hose had a hex end that appeared to be removable. after application of freeall and heat the hose end detached from the banjo end. looks like those hoses indicated to fit the 521 do actually work. thanks again DH I just saw your post in the classifieds about being hesitant to post in here. Guess that feeling has passed huh? lol 1 Quote Link to comment
debbheff@gmail.com Posted March 19, 2021 Author Report Share Posted March 19, 2021 Yeh, seems like the 521 forum is working out, great folks and lots of good info. 1 Quote Link to comment
hosestop@msn.com Posted March 20, 2021 Report Share Posted March 20, 2021 I make hoses in house -521s fool most people with Sae threads not metric , should be able to purchase . 1 Quote Link to comment
debbheff@gmail.com Posted March 20, 2021 Author Report Share Posted March 20, 2021 5 hours ago, hosestop@msn.com said: I make hoses in house -521s fool most people with Sae threads not metric , should be able to purchase . yeh finally figured out the bajno end is a separate piece and found the hoses at local parts store. 1 Quote Link to comment
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