mtngoat Posted April 7, 2014 Author Report Share Posted April 7, 2014 I have to say I'm pretty tempted by electric Quote Link to comment
mtngoat Posted April 7, 2014 Author Report Share Posted April 7, 2014 I have to say I'm pretty tempted by electric Quote Link to comment
datzenmike Posted April 7, 2014 Report Share Posted April 7, 2014 About one liter per minute. Quote Link to comment
mtngoat Posted April 7, 2014 Author Report Share Posted April 7, 2014 So if it idles for 15 sec before it dies (with the fuel line off) and pumping into a jar I'll get about 250 cc Quote Link to comment
smoke Posted April 7, 2014 Report Share Posted April 7, 2014 Don't think u have a fuel delivery problem. Quote Link to comment
datzenmike Posted April 7, 2014 Report Share Posted April 7, 2014 Agree. But should idle for longer than that with full carb. Quote Link to comment
smoke Posted April 7, 2014 Report Share Posted April 7, 2014 Like a low float level would cause. Quote Link to comment
mtngoat Posted April 7, 2014 Author Report Share Posted April 7, 2014 It's tough for me to believe its not a fuel problem. Filter near dry/empty O2 readings of 15-18 under load at 65 Quote Link to comment
mtngoat Posted April 7, 2014 Author Report Share Posted April 7, 2014 If I run it at 60 instead it will cruise @ 14ish New cap rotor wires last month No arcing around coil Quote Link to comment
mtngoat Posted April 7, 2014 Author Report Share Posted April 7, 2014 Plus IGN misfires show rich on the meter, bad plug wire learned me on that Quote Link to comment
mtngoat Posted April 7, 2014 Author Report Share Posted April 7, 2014 Turned out my local, pretty decent parts store had an Airtex E8106S kit on the shelf at only ten bucks over the cheapest web price (once I said give me a deal) and cheaper than the Nikki pump at EBay plus shipping. What the heck, I went and picked it up. Hopefully I'll get it done tonite. I'll place the pump n bracket, then do the wiring, then finish the plumbing swap. There's plenty of room in front of the tank right where the hose from the tank goes by on it's way to the hard line, this location is my first choice. Quote Link to comment
ggzilla Posted April 7, 2014 Report Share Posted April 7, 2014 So even though your pump exceeds pressure and volume tests you're going to replace it? Well maybe just moving/tightening the fuel hoses when you replace the pump will solve the problem. Quote Link to comment
mtngoat Posted April 7, 2014 Author Report Share Posted April 7, 2014 That dribble I see entering the filter isn't exactly high volume! I also checked the entire line front to back, again while I had the tank out. Blew air through it, did the suck n blow, seemed good. Compared it to five feet of new hose, seemed little different So the answer is yes. Quote Link to comment
mtngoat Posted April 8, 2014 Author Report Share Posted April 8, 2014 Well admittedly it took longer than I thought, had to drop the tank again to put the pump where I wanted, then the wiring and' fun behind the dash hour.' But it switched on and pumped first try. Gauge is steady at 4 psi, it pumped about 12 oz in 20 sec or so into a cup from the filter. I'm at the gym after a couple mile run on the freeway at 65, o2 looks right, no problem so far. Quote Link to comment
mtngoat Posted April 9, 2014 Author Report Share Posted April 9, 2014 Home from work, freeway run was perfect. Haven't had rain or a good Gorge headwind yet, the two aggravating conditions (wind became one as the problem worsened), but I am cautiously optimistic. Got the SSS single weight dizzy with a pertronix on my L20b, what static advance do you guys run? Quote Link to comment
datzenmike Posted April 9, 2014 Report Share Posted April 9, 2014 Why the factory 12 degrees of course. Quote Link to comment
mtngoat Posted April 14, 2014 Author Report Share Posted April 14, 2014 Ok it's running better, I think you guys were right about a combination of issues. Fuel system seems perfect now that pump works great, the flow is good, pressure 4 psi, no leaks, filter always full now. I see the static timing at 12, I'd replaced the wires cap rotor last month. I'm getting misses at 3200 and above, or below with high load. I can sneak up on it but if I put my foot into it, it misses. The wind finally returned and the headwind means I need more loud pedal and she sputters above a certain point. I suppose it could be fuel still but that seems unlikely at this point to me. I did the cup test at each carb and it pumps plenty. I'm wondering if the 20 year old pertronix unit is giving up the ghost or if I have coil or dizzy issues.. Checked plugs, they look ok. shaft of dizzy seems tight as in no side play. Ran it at 3400 in the dark, hood up, saw no arcing anywhere or st Elmo's fire on the wires like I saw with some crappy old wires once. Also retuned the carbs. Quote Link to comment
smoke Posted April 14, 2014 Report Share Posted April 14, 2014 Pertronix do fail of course, some thing to check on it are the voltage to the red wire should be a full 12v. Also, if the distributor shaft gets too much play in it, it can cause it to cut out. When it starts sputtering now, does the wide band start reading lean? Quote Link to comment
datzenmike Posted April 14, 2014 Report Share Posted April 14, 2014 It takes more voltage to fire a plug under load than just revved up sitting still. Higher voltage means the spark will look for an easier path to ground than the plug gap. This could be a carbon track left by previous arcing on the coil, inside or outside the distributor cap, the rotor and even the porcelain on the plug(s). Often very hard to see. Carbon tracking will look like a small jagged crack or a spider web thread on the surface. Voltage always, looks for the shortest, easiest path to ground. You must make the spark plug that path, by keeping everything else well insulated. 1 Quote Link to comment
mtngoat Posted April 14, 2014 Author Report Share Posted April 14, 2014 Read up on pertronix fails They tend to fail hard, either periods of no spark at all then back again, or totally dead That's not what im feeling, more of a rev limit which lowers with load, if I'm climbing a hill it won't pull as high. Wo2 swings wildly at this point rich lean Checked the cap inside and out this morning it's totally clean With 1150 hours on the motor I decided to check the cam gear timing and the mark showed some stretch so I grabbed my chain wedge and moved it to hole #2 This made a difference, it pulls much better now below my weird rev limit 1 Quote Link to comment
mtngoat Posted April 14, 2014 Author Report Share Posted April 14, 2014 I wonder if my coil is finally going? It's original as far as I know It looks it! Quote Link to comment
smoke Posted April 14, 2014 Report Share Posted April 14, 2014 Well, if you're gonna be over this way again, I can give you one to try. Quote Link to comment
floyd17 Posted April 15, 2014 Report Share Posted April 15, 2014 soft hose might be collapsing under heavy throttle but still cant figure out the wet dry thing The moisture might make the soft hose more pliable. Quote Link to comment
mtngoat Posted April 16, 2014 Author Report Share Posted April 16, 2014 I think that's part of it. I put dielectric grease in all the dizzy holes and the coil, etc in case it was hitting the ignition, but i'd get out and look and they'd be dry. And the filter would be empty. Quote Link to comment
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