510 Fender badge - hole spacing

[Ratwagon1600]

Random question I know.

 

Can someone please let me know the measurements from centre to centre of the holes on your front fender where the "Datsun" badge goes.

 

Thanks

[Tristin]

I'd like to know too ;)

[datzenmike]

Use two sided tape like all the new cars. No holes= no rust. Get black and trim carefully, de grease the surface.

 

My 5SPEED badge is taped on.

[Ratwagon1600]

Thanks Mike.

 

Double sided tape is my best friend, but, I still NTK the hole spacing for the original badges.

[Tristin]

Yep, if there are already holes drilled, why not utilize them?

[D52E]

The only fender/trunk emblem i have is a US market "Datsun" emblem. See pictures below. There are 3 studs on the back side and they ae not spaced evenly. Looks like approximately 109mm and 102mm.

 

By the way these plastic chrome plated emblems are still available from Nissan in the USA. I believe they are about $32 USD retail cost. The part number is 63806-21300.

 

 

 

[Tristin]

What is the OD of the pins? That way I can get center to center. Thanks for the info!

[D52E]

The outside distances from pin to pin are 106mm and 112mm and the approximate pin diameter is 3mm. I estimate the center to center is about 103mm and 109mm. Looks like my estimate on my first post was off by a little bit on one of the measurements.

 

 

Edit: When I conducted these measurements I used the top of the stud as a measuring point where the metal locking insert did not cover the stud. If one were to drill holes for these studs the hole would not be 3mm. The combined diameter of stud and locking metal sleeve is about 4mm.

 

 

[Tristin]

Perfect. You're the man! Now I can finish the back face of my model.

[D52E]

Here is a closeup of the mounting stud with metal locking insert

 

[Tristin]

I didn't realize the locking mechanism was on the pin itself... That must be new. I wonder when they switched to that method.

[D52E]

I just confirmed the trunk emblem holes are about 4mm

 

 

Yes, someone drilled a couple of other random holes in this trunk lid. The three holes for the Datsun emblem were still there and measure about 4mm

[D52E]

I didn't realize the locking mechanism was on the pin itself... That must be new. I wonder when they switched to that method.

 

I'm not sure if it has been done that way for all PL510 vehicles or if it was a later model (I think 1970 to 1973) plastic emblem thing. I have not been able to get my hands on an early 68 to 69 metal emblem to confirm.

 

The method I have seen used on many cars is to use one of these press on tabs (I forget what they are called)

 

[Tristin]

Those tabs are on all my emblems (1969). That's why I was curious when the change was...

Not that it's really important.

[D52E]

one more thing, the backside of the emblem mounting studs are not all aligned on the same plane. It appears the stud on the "D" is set a bit higher than the two other studs. It looks like about 4mm higher

 

[Tristin]

Crap... Looks like I'll have to remove mine to see where they're at. Thanks again!

[Ratwagon1600]

 

 

I'm not sure if it has been done that way for all PL510 vehicles or if it was a later model (I think 1970 to 1973) plastic emblem thing. I have not been able to get my hands on an early 68 to 69 metal emblem to confirm.

 

The method I have seen used on many cars is to use one of these press on tabs (I forget what they are called)

 

 

We call these speed clips.

 

Thanks for your efforts with this.

 

I'll measure the datsun1600 fender badges I have today as the pin spacing looks similar to your Datsun emblems.

 

The original reason I asked was I have a Datsun emblem on my goon hatch and was wondering if it was the same as the American fender emblems.

 

Thanks again

 

Jason

[420n620]

We call these speed clips.

was wondering if it was the same as the American fender emblems.

 

 

went and checked to see and they are. The pins fit in my hatch and fender. As for speed nuts in the states, I'll post a pic of what I believe is what we call speed nuts.