I'm BLUE Posted March 30, 2010 Report Share Posted March 30, 2010 IDK if this will help , datzenmike posted in here My link It's your starter pal. I'm sure someone around here can bring you a spare. If I were closer I'd bring one to you right now. +1 , I would agree but it's still strange that it does it on both did ya say skib ? Quote Link to comment
Skib Posted March 30, 2010 Author Report Share Posted March 30, 2010 If you've shorted it to the battery and it doesn't crank, it's your starter pal. I'm sure someone around here can bring you a spare. If I were closer I'd bring one to you right now. I was afraid of that :( the Z car ones fairly new so thats whats buggin me, and I ran it on my L28et before so its not a bad reman. Quote Link to comment
MicroMachinery Posted March 30, 2010 Report Share Posted March 30, 2010 Did the lights shut off with the other(L16) starter as well? It may be that the L16 starter is just bad, but the L28et starter is too much of an amperage draw.. although I can't imagine that being the case. Quote Link to comment
I'm BLUE Posted March 30, 2010 Report Share Posted March 30, 2010 pm sent. Can someone explain the sizzling ? I Don't understand this ? Quote Link to comment
Skib Posted March 30, 2010 Author Report Share Posted March 30, 2010 ok so, L16 starter is bad it looks to be. Im gonna pull the Z one and test it too. Quote Link to comment
Skib Posted March 30, 2010 Author Report Share Posted March 30, 2010 pm sent. Can someone explain the sizzling ? Don't understand this ? shits hot yo! Quote Link to comment
I'm BLUE Posted March 30, 2010 Report Share Posted March 30, 2010 shits hot yo! Good to hear on the starter being the case from the L16 :cool: waiting for other vid :D mmmmmmm now I'm Hungry for MEAT !!! :lol: BRB ! Quote Link to comment
MicroMachinery Posted March 30, 2010 Report Share Posted March 30, 2010 pm sent. Can someone explain the sizzling ? I Don't understand this ? The sizzling is the sound of wiring/connections getting hot and burning. The larger resistance(ohms) incurred by the faulty part creates a blockage, so the energy(amperage) is backed up and has no way to complete it's course smoothly/quickly. The energy gets trapped in the wires, and has to go somewhere. In this case, becomes heat, and eventually crispy wiring. Quote Link to comment
I'm BLUE Posted March 30, 2010 Report Share Posted March 30, 2010 The sizzling is the sound of wiring/connections getting hot and burning. The large resistance incurred by the faulty part creates a higher demand for amperage throughout the circuit. The higher the resistance(ohms), the higher the voltage(V) needed to push the larger amperage(A) draw. If resistance goes up, everything else goes up too. Thanks for clearing that up Micro , I am horrible with electrical stuff , but I am learning slowly and steady :lol: ;). I guess I did understand the higher resistance , but apparently I was thinking to hard :lol: This is me Quote Link to comment
mike Posted March 30, 2010 Report Share Posted March 30, 2010 http://community.ratsun.net/topic/102-hot-start-relay/page__p__1352__hl__relay%20starter__fromsearch__1entry1352 Have you done the hot start relay yet? I chased and cleaned every damn wire in the ignition system in my goon and tried a few different starters... put the relay in and it started first "turn" of the toggle switch and push button :blink: Good luck man, I fucking hate electrical crap. ...oh yeah, check your grounds too... terminal to block as well as body grounds, do you have a good ground from the block to the chassis and/or from the neg battery terminal to the body? Quote Link to comment
MicroMachinery Posted March 30, 2010 Report Share Posted March 30, 2010 Yeah, it's kinda rusty for me. It was my strong point in school, but I haven't used Ohm's Law in textbook form in a while(as you can see in my editing of my previous post). Using it in every day application is the same, only it sounds a little different. :blink: Quote Link to comment
Skib Posted March 30, 2010 Author Report Share Posted March 30, 2010 well if this test is accurate way of testing my starters.... .... they've all gone to shit. Quote Link to comment
MicroMachinery Posted March 30, 2010 Report Share Posted March 30, 2010 Are you touching one post or both, Skib? You need to make contact with the 2 posts in order for the drive to both engage AND spin. There is the post that your Positive battery cable hooks to, and also the post that actuates the starter solenoid. Hook up the negative cable to the body of the starter like you have, and hook up the positive cable to where the Positive battery cable would hook up. Next, take a screwdriver or jumper wire, and bridge the terminal that's hooked up the Batt +, and the starter solenoid terminal(should be a spade connection). The drive should both engage(pop out) AND spin. On the L16 starter test, I may have been mistaken, but it looks like you only touched the starter solenoid spade connecter, and not the Batt+ terminal as well. Like I said, I may have seen that wrong. Quote Link to comment
Skib Posted March 30, 2010 Author Report Share Posted March 30, 2010 Are you touching one post or both, Skib? You need to make contact with the 2 posts in order for the drive to both engage AND spin. :mellow: god Im retarded tonight, I just had power to the tab... Quote Link to comment
ariascarlos1990 Posted March 30, 2010 Report Share Posted March 30, 2010 oh. Have you tried to cross jump your starter? have you? Are you touching one post or both, Skib? You need to make contact with the 2 posts in order for the drive to both engage AND spin. There is the post that your Positive battery cable hooks to, and also the post that actuates the starter solenoid. Hook up the negative cable to the body of the starter like you have, and hook up the positive cable to where the Positive battery cable would hook up. Next, take a screwdriver or jumper wire, and bridge the terminal that's hooked up the Batt +, and the starter solenoid terminal(should be a spade connection). The drive should both engage(pop out) AND spin. On the L16 starter test, I may have been mistaken, but it looks like you only touched the starter solenoid spade connecter, and not the Batt+ terminal as well. Like I said, I may have seen that wrong. +1 Quote Link to comment
MicroMachinery Posted March 30, 2010 Report Share Posted March 30, 2010 Ok. Looks like your starters are all good. How are all your grounds? Engine grounds, body grounds, etc.. Quote Link to comment
Guest kamakazi620 Posted March 30, 2010 Report Share Posted March 30, 2010 check yer cables too!!!! if they feel like a limp noodle their bad!!! Quote Link to comment
Skib Posted March 30, 2010 Author Report Share Posted March 30, 2010 check yer cables too!!!! if they feel like a limp noodle their bad!!! wanna come lend a hand? you are the expert on feelin up limp noodles after all :rofl: Quote Link to comment
Skib Posted March 30, 2010 Author Report Share Posted March 30, 2010 back off to the garage brb Quote Link to comment
Skib Posted March 30, 2010 Author Report Share Posted March 30, 2010 Im done for the night. Ill check that shit tomorrow :sweat: Quote Link to comment
MicroMachinery Posted March 30, 2010 Report Share Posted March 30, 2010 Yeah, I'm out. If you have a DMM, you should be able to narrow it down pretty fast. Happy hunting dude. Quote Link to comment
mike Posted March 30, 2010 Report Share Posted March 30, 2010 If its really bugging you still, go put your starter back in, turn the key to the "on" position and use a jump wire from the battery to the spade terminal. It ought to start. ...Is your ignition switch bad? Quote Link to comment
Skib Posted March 30, 2010 Author Report Share Posted March 30, 2010 If its really bugging you still, go put your starter back in, turn the key to the "on" position and use a jump wire from the battery to the spade terminal. It ought to start. ...Is your ignition switch bad? I dont think it is.... could it be an ignition relay issue? tomorrow Ill be checking all the grounds and the battery cables Quote Link to comment
I'm BLUE Posted March 30, 2010 Report Share Posted March 30, 2010 :mellow: god Im retarded tonight, I just had power to the tab... me too :lol: Quote Link to comment
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