rbastedo Posted June 15, 2009 Report Share Posted June 15, 2009 Some know me and my car (78 MG Midget with Nissan A15) and know that I bought a used 5 speed several months ago from a guy who was parting out his 210. This past weekend a friend and I pulled the motor & 4 speed and installed the 5 speed. Then I found out the thing needs some new bearings and 4th gear seems to be missing - like nothing there when you shift up into the space where 4th gear ought to be. We plan to pull it all back out this coming Saturday and open up the tranny to see what it needs. Advice and information will be greatly appreciated! Where does one go to get parts? Assuming I may need some bearings and bushings and maybe a couple more things? Thanks! Quote Link to comment
datzenmike Posted June 16, 2009 Report Share Posted June 16, 2009 Is fifth there? Quote Link to comment
rbastedo Posted June 16, 2009 Author Report Share Posted June 16, 2009 Yes, all there except 4th. In 5th I get the right RPM's so I know for sure that works. Nobody's home in 4th. Quote Link to comment
Datsun fan Posted June 17, 2009 Report Share Posted June 17, 2009 Then I found out the thing needs some new bearings and 4th gear seems to be missing - like nothing there when you shift up into the space where 4th gear ought to be. What you mean MISSING ??? Is it dogleg gearbox ??? It is a good idea that you weight that tranny and ask somebody who has the same shit and compare both results !!!!! if they r identical so your 4th gear is dead and won't engage . Quote Link to comment
Dime Dave Posted June 17, 2009 Report Share Posted June 17, 2009 Really seems strange that only 4th is not working. It should be effecting 3rd in a standard shift pattern or 5th in a dogleg. The shift rod, shift fork and coupling ring are all common to the other gear. Only possible solution I could offer is the roll pin holding the shift fork to the shaft has sheared. It may be allowing the opposite gear to engage but allowing the shaft to slip and not moving the fork/coupler into 4th gear. I doubt this is the problem, but I have had roll pins fail under hard use, usually with both gears not engaging though. In any case it sounds like nothing short of removing it will fix it. Quote Link to comment
Dime Dave Posted June 17, 2009 Report Share Posted June 17, 2009 Contact me if you need bearings and baulk rings. I have extras that I purchased for a rebuild on a 60 standard pattern transmission. All Nissan OEM stuff. Dave Patten dwpatten@gsinet.net Quote Link to comment
rbastedo Posted June 17, 2009 Author Report Share Posted June 17, 2009 Dogleg (1st & Reverse are to the left with first being down and Revers being up) 4th is up on the right and 5th is down. Now it has a significant leak of the front seal and the new clutch is slipping, I'm taking it over to my friends tonight and I will be driving (hopefully) my MK2 Sprite while we work on that transmission. Quote Link to comment
datzenmike Posted June 17, 2009 Report Share Posted June 17, 2009 Take pictures! This is a dogleg but not the same as the 200sx one with an A 'bell' on it. This is likely an FS5W60L? Quote Link to comment
rbastedo Posted June 17, 2009 Author Report Share Posted June 17, 2009 Well I know it's a '60' but that's all I know right now. I have pictures on my camera at home I can post later after I work all day and all evening if I have the strength & memory to do anything other than pass out. Quote Link to comment
Dime Dave Posted June 17, 2009 Report Share Posted June 17, 2009 Being it is a dogleg and 60 series, Mike has it right,the transmission is a FS5W60L. Best I can tell from looking at my parts CD, these were used in the US 210's until 7/79, pn 32010-H9150 and from 7/79 until the end of the 210's run (1982) in Canada, pn 32010-H9363. Quote Link to comment
datzenmike Posted June 18, 2009 Report Share Posted June 18, 2009 (edited) Yeah, I was at work and guessing at the tranny. My records show only the FS5W63A dogleg being used from Mar. '76 until the B210 became the 210 (B310) then the FS5W60A was used from Aug '79 on. I do have a photo of an FS5W60L from an '81, so maybe it is misslabled. The FS5W60A does at least look like an MG tranny. The FS5W63A is much bigger and different looking. POST PICTURES. Edited June 18, 2009 by datzenmike Quote Link to comment
ggzilla Posted June 18, 2009 Report Share Posted June 18, 2009 1979 B310 - FS5W60L (dogleg) 1980-1982 B310 - FS5W60A (non-dogleg) remember the 1980 model year started 0879 Quote Link to comment
datzenmike Posted June 18, 2009 Report Share Posted June 18, 2009 ggzilla, yes I misread it Looks like FS5W63A through '78 when the B-210 was 'retired'. FS5W60L for one year till July '79 and then FS5W60A from Aug '79 on. Does this sound right? Quote Link to comment
ggzilla Posted June 18, 2009 Report Share Posted June 18, 2009 Yes that's right. Quote Link to comment
DRIVEN Posted June 18, 2009 Report Share Posted June 18, 2009 Does it look like the one on eBay right now for $750? If you run out of options, or yours is not repairable, I have a spare I might let go for a bit less than that:D. Mine is the later non-dogleg version out of an '80 210 wagon. Quote Link to comment
Dime Dave Posted June 18, 2009 Report Share Posted June 18, 2009 The easiest way to identify the FS5W60L (dogleg) vs. FS5W60A (non-dogleg) in a photo is the location of the drain plug. The dogleg drain plug faces rearward the non-dogleg point toward the ground. Here is a photo that ddgonzal posted to Datsun1200.com Quote Link to comment
rbastedo Posted June 18, 2009 Author Report Share Posted June 18, 2009 Mine has the plug facing rearward. I dropped it (the car) off at my friends house yesterday so I could go home and try to get my Sprite up & running. In retrospect I should have tried turning the key before doing everything else, then I would have had more time to find & fix that problem. Ah, well I guess I can do that tonight. Quote Link to comment
lynchfourtwenty Posted June 21, 2009 Report Share Posted June 21, 2009 My records show. He's got Records ^^ aka sticky notes stuck to his monitor.. heheheh :lol::lol::lol: Quote Link to comment
datzenmike Posted June 21, 2009 Report Share Posted June 21, 2009 so... :D One says JUKEISM 65.9.185.227 (banned). I'd throw it away but it also has the conversion from mm to inches and back to mm. :D Quote Link to comment
rbastedo Posted September 5, 2009 Author Report Share Posted September 5, 2009 What kind of options do I have for getting this 5 speed rebuilt here in the NW (Washington State, USA)? Quote Link to comment
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