Yes i have given her a chance it is a runner but i am tossing the idea around.They are bitchin motors and just cool period when you pop the hood.The only thing that i am learning is it is hard to get parts for it,and a ka24 would be cheaper i just think they are so over done.and then drew recommened the ca18det and that was another idea,maybe i will just go back to the ls2 with a narrowed rear end.