Lets face it these judges are how ever there judging these cars i dont know myself,but lets face it some of these cars are just pure shit just like my red truck as far as i'm concerned,its clean with some subtle touches thats all,there i said it,you come to have a good time and check out the cars the people and make new friends,like i posted before from there website ITS NOT A COMPETION.You want to compete then spend some money on a bad ass paint job cherry ass interior and motor setup stock to modified what ever makes your heart content and trailer your ass down to a good guys show and really compete or you know what better yet head to Pebble beach.