Dennisbeechie Posted February 25, 2017 Author Report Share Posted February 25, 2017 that looks right. YOu watch the vid?????????? now when you put the dist in where those the rotor point? where rotor points that is number 1 plug wire. then goes 1 3 4 2 counter close wirse fire order. a lot of people say Im out 180degs. then move the spark plug wires 180degs and start over. key is the above statement. If you know where 1 is then that is your starting point. 1 3 4 2 ccw. but like I earlier said the oil spidal can be correct at TDC but you have a wrong distributor mount if you converted this over with mismatched parts. If this was running fine before then put it back to where ever you had it. I did watch the videos, first thing I did was pop the cap off to find that the rotor was pointing at #4 at tdc. After seeing that I pulled the distributor and found that the oil spindle wasn't like the other pictures or descriptions of where it should be so I removed the oil pump and adjusted it. It looked ok from the top so I bolted it back together, put the cap on and rotor was now pointing at #1. Firing order is correct. Tried to fire it up and only back fires and won't start. Quote Link to comment
Dennisbeechie Posted February 25, 2017 Author Report Share Posted February 25, 2017 Typically the fat side of the 'tang' is pointed to the back of the engine. I'd assume you are 180 out now. I didnt realize that there was a fat side to it I assumed it was centered Quote Link to comment
Dennisbeechie Posted February 25, 2017 Author Report Share Posted February 25, 2017 just re adjusted the spindle to this, is this correct? 1 Quote Link to comment
Dennisbeechie Posted February 25, 2017 Author Report Share Posted February 25, 2017 And yes the fat side was towards the front of the motor 1 Quote Link to comment
Dennisbeechie Posted February 25, 2017 Author Report Share Posted February 25, 2017 OMG... I put it all back together tried to start and nothing. So I checked for spark, nothing, with the cap off, turned it over and the rotor only moved 1/4 inch. Took the dostributor off, oil pump, the shaft is now in a bind and won't come out, this sucks... Quote Link to comment
datzenmike Posted February 25, 2017 Report Share Posted February 25, 2017 Tap gently down on it from the distributor end with the oil pump off, or unbolted... should fall out. 1 Quote Link to comment
Dennisbeechie Posted February 25, 2017 Author Report Share Posted February 25, 2017 Tap gently down on it from the distributor end with the oil pump off, or unbolted... should fall out. I was tapping it and it wouldn't budge Quote Link to comment
Dennisbeechie Posted February 25, 2017 Author Report Share Posted February 25, 2017 It did get dark and cold so I gave up on it for the night. Back at it another day Quote Link to comment
Dennisbeechie Posted February 25, 2017 Author Report Share Posted February 25, 2017 If the weather isn't shit, maybe I can swing by sometime this weekend and we can get it squared away. If you don't have it running by then of course. that would be awesome, I'm working tomorrow but Sunday would probably work if your up for the challenge! Quote Link to comment
Draker Posted February 25, 2017 Report Share Posted February 25, 2017 Weather permitting, Sunday might work. I'll be in touch. Don't sweat this, It's complicated the first time you run through it.. after you've done it once, you'll be able to do it many times after without issue. 1 Quote Link to comment
banzai510(hainz) Posted February 25, 2017 Report Share Posted February 25, 2017 #28 is off on a stock correctly timed spindal. wheither the tang fat side is one way or the other don't matter. Long as you know the motor is at TDC. then where rotor locks down then that's number 1 and should be close enough to dial it in using the adjustment plate. 1 Quote Link to comment
Draker Posted February 25, 2017 Report Share Posted February 25, 2017 It matters if you try to put the dizzy back in without swapping plug wires. 1 Quote Link to comment
banzai510(hainz) Posted February 25, 2017 Report Share Posted February 25, 2017 that's why you take not where it locks down at TDC that's number one. (you make it number 1) 1 Quote Link to comment
Draker Posted February 25, 2017 Report Share Posted February 25, 2017 I am not disagreeing with you. But those details get lost really quickly if you've never done it before. 1 Quote Link to comment
banzai510(hainz) Posted February 25, 2017 Report Share Posted February 25, 2017 well he said he watched the vid so linning it up with the dot on oil pump you cant get if off 180degs. maybe a tooth or 2 but where it locks down and if spindal off 180 just move the plug wire from 4 to 1 or 1 to 4 will work as I have done it before cause some people put the dist mount off 180degs then say WTF!!!! it don't run but got the spindal in the corret 11.28 position.. Now with digital cameras you take photo first before removing as we all do forget sometimes. 3 Quote Link to comment
Draker Posted March 6, 2017 Report Share Posted March 6, 2017 I made it over there yesterday and we got the timing dialed in perfectly. Still had funky issue bogging in with the secondaries. Poking around the carb we found a few oversized jets. I'm going to lend him a few to see if that resolve the issue. Otherwise the truck starts and idles great. Quote Link to comment
Draker Posted March 13, 2017 Report Share Posted March 13, 2017 Got the valves adjusted today. Also fiddled with the jets. Ran a little better but still not good enough to drive. Swapped with a carb I had. I'll let OP update after testing. I'm guessing his carb might need a little more work. Not sure what emulsion tube are in it and they are stuck. Quote Link to comment
Draker Posted March 13, 2017 Report Share Posted March 13, 2017 Also has a strange ticking sound when rev'd. Coming from the head.. maybe fuel pull arm or something. Need to listen with the scope. Quote Link to comment
Dennisbeechie Posted March 13, 2017 Author Report Share Posted March 13, 2017 Thanks for all the help draker! Seems to be running pretty well, minor sputter at idle but nothing devastating, there was also a blockage in the fuel line and fuel filter so I replaced the line and cleaned out the filter. Like Draker says there is a ticking sound coming from the rear of the motor, I adjusted the valves twice, once cold and once hot, then draker helped me Do it hot another time. It only happens once the motor is warmed up and is revved, doesn't do it at idle. I appreciate all your guys help and camt wait to drive this puppy around :) Quote Link to comment
KoHeartsGPA Posted March 15, 2017 Report Share Posted March 15, 2017 Good work, Craig :thumbup: 1 Quote Link to comment
banzai510(hainz) Posted March 15, 2017 Report Share Posted March 15, 2017 if you have the crank at zero . then just line up the cam sprocket so the V notch lines up with the dash. then rotate the crank CCW say half turn then turn crank back to zero and see if it lines up on V notch and dash(keeping chain on the tight side). If yes then its timed and lock it down. If not start over and move a link in the dection you need to go. most people shoul ink pen the chain link before removal of the chain 2 Quote Link to comment
Dennisbeechie Posted March 28, 2017 Author Report Share Posted March 28, 2017 Quick update... I decided to do an oil change, its been registering on the dipstick r Right where I'd think it should. I put it on the lift, pull the plug, and only a quart and a half drained out... Quote Link to comment
Dennisbeechie Posted March 28, 2017 Author Report Share Posted March 28, 2017 I'm wondering how long it has been ran with barely any oil, maybe the previous owner ran it that way as well? Hopefully it didnt create any problems... Quote Link to comment
Draker Posted March 28, 2017 Report Share Posted March 28, 2017 lol, I guess that would explain a few of the noises. 1 Quote Link to comment
Draker Posted March 28, 2017 Report Share Posted March 28, 2017 I'm wondering how long it has been ran with barely any oil, maybe the previous owner ran it that way as well? Hopefully it didnt create any problems... It's certainly not good, but if you had oil pressure before it should be fine. Also if all the sounds are gone and pressure is back to normal.. it's probably fine. 2 Quote Link to comment
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