67 RL411 SSS Newbie

[Fishorgolf]

Hi all i'm on my third day of ownership and I guess a bit on egde about my future as a Datsun owner. I picked up this car that my grandparents bought new and used as a second car ( Grandmas ) and a tow behind the camper car. This car has sat for 14 years after my grandmother passed away, sitting in the garage of the house that my father moved into up intell he passed away a few months ago. They lived about 4 hours away and knew the car was going to come my way in time. Although I liked the look of the little car I never spent any time dreaming about the day I would take over garidianship. About a year ago I drained the fuel tank of the varnished gas and started to look over the project of getting this car home. By looking at the cars in this fourm Im a very lucky owner of a dirty but complete non-rust car that will clean up like 90% of new and hopefully become a second daily driver. Id like to post pictures but to new to this fourm but will figure it out soon I only have six pictures and am shure there will be more. Ive drained the oil changed the plugs ( Gap ? went with the old plug settings ) droped the fuel tank and blew out the lines from the glass filter back. Ill drain the rear end after the first lap around the block promise. I have other cars older ones too and some only have two ss in front of the nova nameplate. So whats the problem you may ask ? I look forward to driving this car around soon but spending the time tricking down the few parts it needs now or in the future when the part houses around my house seem to think a dual carb is a after market part and i should buy the big round air cleaner and get a single carb converison kit. I guess I just dont know enough or have the leads as to where the good shop is when I get stumped . If any of you reading this would like to offer up any leads possable carb rebuild shops in the Oregon / Washinton area, is a carpit kit out the question? , Id be happy to share pictures if someone wants to pm me your e-mail adress and you might put them up for me, I am proud of her and like to share. I know everone loves pictures me too. Tonight I started cleaning the interior up just cause I didnt want to smell like gas for the third night in a row. Sorry about the long drown out 1st post , Ill try to stay on point in the future from Portland Oregon we''ll talk again soon Grant.

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[erichwaslike]

see im having trouble with actual photobucket loading properly so i can even upload anything ive been trying for a week.

 

i want to see your car!!!!!

[MikeRL411]

Welcome to the 411 zoo! You have a gem there. Caution, the gas filter element [rag bag] part number 16404-68225 will be hard to find because they don't wear out. Just rinse the old one in new gasoline, dry and reinstall. Don't over tighten the screw clamp on the bottom, you can spring the pot metal top by applying too much force, Enough to seal the gasket between the glass bowl and the top is enough. Mine is 44 years old. Since it was bought for your Grandmother, I would guess that it has the British Borg Warner automatic transmission which was used in most European cars from Austin to SAAB and imports like the Mercury Capri. It is a very good and reliable transmission.

[MikeRL411]

JCWhitney offers a carpet kit that fits the 411 very well, I have it in mine. Caution is that if you have the Borg Warner with the column shift you should call in your order and tell them that, otherwise you will get a carpet kit cut for the 4 on the floor manual transmission. If ordered on line, no one reads the order far enough down to detect the "Column Mount Transmission shift" notation.

 

Just saw your photos, 4 on the floor so the "standard" JCWhitney rug set should fit just fine. I see that you also have the original Radio Delete Plate. Hang on to it, some restorer will want it in the future.

Edited July 11, 2012 by MikeRL411

[Fishorgolf]

<a href="http://s1155.photobucket.com/albums/p545/fishorgolf/?action=view&current=Photo09431.jpg" target="_blank"><img <a href="http://s1155.photobucket.com/albums/p545/fishorgolf/?action=view&current=100_2236.jpg" target="_blank"><img src="http://i1155.photobucket.com/albums/p545/fishorgolf/100_2236.jpg" border="0" alt="Photobucket"></a><a href="http://s1155.photobucket.com/albums/p545/fishorgolf/?action=view&current=100_2233.jpg" target="_blank"><img src="http://i1155.photobucket.com/albums/p545/fishorgolf/100_2233.jpg" border="0" alt="Photobucket"></a><a href="http://s1155.photobucket.com/albums/p545/fishorgolf/?action=view&current=Photo09421.jpg" target="_blank"><img src="http://i1155.photobucket.com/albums/p545/fishorgolf/Photo09421.jpg" border="0" alt="Photobucket"></a> I'll try to add some motor pictures today and some cleaned up interior shots. There seems to be some platic rap that still cover some of the rear quater paneling. The dome light is cracked, about a 5 inch ware mark throught the carpet on the drivers side. The headlinner looks great but the platic post not by the front seats thoes seem to be vinaly and in good shape but the back seat and rear ones look good but real sticky ( tacky to the touch ) A good cleanner ? . Well I better get back to it hope this goes through, take care Grant.

[MikeRL411]

The tacky feel is due to outgassing of the vinyl. A careful cleaning, don't rub too hard, with a good vinyl upholstery cleaner will help a lot. Meguiar's products are usually a good bet.

 

If super sticky, a soft sponge and Palmolive Grease Release dish washing soap might be a good first step. Gently, gently,gently. That's what I did to get the gunk off after parking my 411 in San Bernardino during early summer for a month.

Edited July 11, 2012 by MikeRL411

[MikeRL411]

Try this site for a good run down on the Hitachi SU carbs. http://datsun1200.com/modules/mediawiki/index.php?title=Hitachi_Twin_Carb. Good general and some specific info you will need. 411 Hitachi SU filters are hard to come by, roadster filters are too long by about an inch. Improvise? Like putting 2 small motorcycle filters inside the housing. Ericwaslike may be able to suggest some workarounds, he has autocrossed one of his 411s.

[erichwaslike]

here i fixed your tags for you

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I'll try to add some motor pictures today and some cleaned up interior shots. There seems to be some platic rap that still cover some of the rear quater paneling. The dome light is cracked, about a 5 inch ware mark throught the carpet on the drivers side. The headlinner looks great but the platic post not by the front seats thoes seem to be vinaly and in good shape but the back seat and rear ones look good but real sticky ( tacky to the touch ) A good cleanner ? . Well I better get back to it hope this goes through, take care Grant.

[erichwaslike]

also any chance that you have the tow bar setup still ive been looking to make one for mine but if you have it and are willing to part with it i would like it

[Fishorgolf]

also any chance that you have the tow bar setup still ive been looking to make one for mine but if you have it and are willing to part with it i would like it

Thanks for the picture fix. The towing brakets look home made, my grandfather might of made him self . I'll try to send you pictures, if you look at the front view picture of the car I haden't taken the brakets off yet.

[Fishorgolf]

Well today guess the biggest news was I pulled the carbs cleaned everthing out the best I could and got evething back togather. After a short warming up I pull forward 10 ft than backed down the drive way on to the street. I wasen't able to get 1st, 2nd, or 3rd, only R. Long pause, found the gears and pulled forward about 30 ft. Sounds like wheel barrings grinding and than my theeth followed shortley, I remember that this car had two flat tires I just reflated and hand tightend the lugs cause this car hadden't driven for 14 years, Tight lug nuts no more grinding and I'm on my way ,I knew a cluch ajustment will be in the works. A few trips around the block, pick the wife at work 8 miles driven and its looking good so far. After dinner I'm thinking freeway speeds less traffic and nice weather. I logged about 25 miles at 60 mph smooth sailing. I even got kids giving me the thumbs , and a I-phone video I think ( holding phond out the window as they tagged my port side. Car started to run a little ruff once I got off the freeway. I had to stop and let her rest a few times before I walked her home the last few blocks. If there was a 5th gear that would be nice but crused 60 just fine / theres not a 5th gear right. Looks like my valve gasget started to leak cause there is a whiteish dusting ibuild-up in the areas around 1/3 of the carbs and linkage, Thursday is a Golf day so will give this car a brake and my-self too, Have fun and be safe Grant,

[erichwaslike]

the white build up is most likely oxidation on the carbs since they are cheap potmetal/aluminum. also when you rebuilt the carbs did you put any oil in them where the dipstick is. i have actuall carb oil but i know atf and 30wt are usable replacements. and heres a lil tip 5th gear.......isnt there lol. there is a short 5 speed you can build that will work but it uses some harder to find parts. and to let you know that motor should run up into the 6000rpm mark. i run mine to 6700 but its a fresh motor. my car will doo 100+in 4th at around 5500+. so go crank her out but be mindful yours is a bit on the old side for the drivetrain. keep an ear out for any funny noises.

 

great job getting her going and keeping another 411 on the road.

[MikeRL411]

By the way, your wheel covers are the "standard" 411 wheel covers for those running Pinto wheel covers and thinking that they are real Datsun ones. Looking good!!!!

[Fishorgolf]

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[erichwaslike]

i looked at you pics.... you hace a very clean wagon. i sent you a message on here about some parts too...

[Johnlorio]

Hi. My 411 wagon has the same rear spring set up. I thought it was a jury rig butl I see it on yours. Any idea what it is? Some sort of helper spring?

[Johnlorio]

Hi. My 411 wagon has the same rear spring set up. I thought it was a jury rig butl I see it on yours. Any idea what it is? Some sort of helper spring?